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I ended up making this over the weekend, since I had all the hops on hand. I forgot the sugar but I think it will still end up good. I will report once I start drinking it.

From a BA thread.... http://i.imgur.com/zLaFW.jpg Dark lord http://beeradvocate.com/forum/read/3954624

How nice of them to offer free shipping.

Also have this model and the mail issues with riverfront. If you get the instructions please pass them my way. Cheers

Mine also came via USPS in a flat rate box.

After reading this I checked and the site still says this, so hopefully they really are 2011s.

I got 2 lbs and while not a firm vacuum seal ala Austin homebrew the packages were not full of air. With so many people selling 2010 hops it's almost like we need bag dating. But at the very least this should have been visible on the product page.

Why does it matter to stay below 170 on mash out for batch sparging if you are going to be boiling so quickly? Looking for technical reasons, but basically making the same argument as those that say mash out is unnecessary because boiling is happening so quickly after the mash is finished.

11 lb 2 row .5lb crystal 40 .5 lb crystal 10 .5lb carapils 1lb corn sugar It's basically the grain bill from the Pliny clone and I've done all sorts of hop combos with it and it really let's you do what you want with it.

Anyone used these yet in a recipe?

So it seems like the only real concern is the package sitting on a door step and not anything in transit. Thanks for the help.

Do any of you still do this or just get them from your LHBS? I want to try out the Greenbelt from Austin Homebrew but its friggin cold up here in Ohio. Is there any way to mitigate the risk? Thanks in advance.

Subscribed...I was thinking of doing a pliny clone with this strain, but ended up using WLP001