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  1. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    Ok, last batch of this year, IPA Double, 1070 OG, 46L (12 Gal): lots of CO2 to collect! I ended up using two Cornys as storage (and I think I'll add a third), sanitized and filled with water to keep the O2 out. I haven't had time to build a controller, but this batch produces CO2 at such a...
  2. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    mmm, yesterday I was so excited to test it that I actually didn't think about the possibility of a rocket taking off in the basement and coming at me, or a bomb exploding near me...I think eyes or ears protections wouldn't be enough to avoid injury. I think I will deflate it this evening while...
  3. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    Ok, after reading your posts I decided to go down to 5 bars (72 psi) ;)! I manually turned the compressor on and off to fill the Cornelius (wearing eyes and ears protections), so no risk of accidental explosions (but the risk of "intentional" explosions remains :oops:). The Cornelius has...
  4. Ale-75-IT

    Controlling a glycol chiller

    I think an ESP32 will suffice, plus a dallas 18b20 chip and a relay board. You'll have to design the connections, buy the connectors, and solder everything to make it work (and it always takes a bit of troubleshooting). At this point you will enter a programming nightmare of trial and error...
  5. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    OK, I don't usually make beers this alcoholic... The thing I didn't expect was that, with this initial gravity pushing the fermentation very quickly, I could fill the cornelius with CO2 in half a day! No control unit would be needed, but this is a special case. Avoiding the control unit has...
  6. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    I'm testing it in a real environment. Purged Keg and bag with CO2 belonging from a 23l (6 gal) IPA (OG 1055). Now I'm trying to store CO2 from a 41l (10 gal) double IPA (OG 1070). I'm turning it On and Off cause I'm still missing a control unit but I'm working on an ESP32 simple board that...
  7. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    Ok, I've got little updates for you. Mainly I upgraded to alu bags and eva barrier tubings. I started working on aluminum bags to test if they are adequate, as for now they don't convince me because the plastic layer is very thin, so I fear that it will break over time if inflated/deflated...
  8. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    I'm ready to start experimenting... after all, I still haven't told you about my kegerator powered by an ice cream maker engine plus a couple of liters of propylene glycol from my e-cigarette. Managed with a wifi controller (not exactly...it's an esp-now connection). Maybe with another ice...
  9. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    It's pretty clear to me after rereading whole thread that the project could fail for more than one reason. And I have to thank you all (no sarcasm) for that. First of all for the O2 speech.... I would like to do some empirical, but "controlled" tests, such as trying to carbonate half a batch...
  10. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    it doesn't seem difficult to produce a control system... The values that the ESP32 reads are significantly different....
  11. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    Before posting on this forum I had actually asked NASA if they were interested in my CO2 recovery system. They appeared very enthusiastic about my discovery and immediately dedicated 4 engineers to investigate further.
  12. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    Please Lizard explain why... the only drawback I imagine if moisture goes into the storage keg... is the possibility to encourage bacterial/yeast growth... Tx, Ale p.s.: what about replacing bag with this one?
  13. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    this is what I was thinking to try before getting stuck with the O2 problem above.... A potentiometer who can detect bag height and activate/de-activate compressor. I was quite ready to start experimenting with some simple esp-32 code... but I got stuck with the O2 and bag question... damn!
  14. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    Bassman2003: this is a bit of a difficult question for me! I think what drives me is the passion for DIY, which I inherited from my father. And perhaps even earlier by my grandfather, who made his own wine (all year round), cultivating the vines; he also raised hens, rabbits, chinchillas, for...
  15. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    No I think I won't, even if I have a big linguistic limitation and therefore posting costs me a bit: I have to get a mental image of what I want to say in English, then I have to try to write it and finally (if I'm not particularly pissed off and so I don't care) I want to feed it to google...
  16. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    Bassman2003: please forget what I've said before, because I've had new inputs so I'll have to revise my project.... Before making a prediction on how many liters I'll need or on the purpose (carbonation or transfer?), I need to better understand the risk of diffusion of O2 in the system. This...
  17. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    these are the bags my shop utilizes now.
  18. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    I've done some research here and there, mostly on some manufacturer's homepage. It's very difficult to have a technical datasheet for a single product... so It could be quite difficult to know diffusion/resistance data of the bag you're choosing, at O2. What I have learned is that an aluminum...
  19. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    Ok, you both convinced me to further investigate on O2 permeability, before going on. Thanks, Ale
  20. Ale-75-IT

    trying to achieve a cheap CO2 storage system

    i you want to study oxidation in the bag you'll need a "blind" comparison :p. (EDIT: mmm, no, it's not "blind" it's only a comparison, sorry) For example a glass jar in the same conditions of temperature and light exposition. For now it is not my priority but you have given me food for thought...
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