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We'll give that a try. Thanks for the help!

I gotcha! I'm actually getting the off tastes before I even keg it. If I take a sample from the fermenter it's already there.

One other thought.. could fermenting Kviek too cold cause this? I typically ferment on the low range, closer to 20c but it says 20-40 is fine, but optimal is 30+

As per the "what is different" - nothing I am aware of. One thought I did have is I have wirlfloc I use thats about 1 year old, but looks, smells and feels fine. I would typically use this in every beer.. but possible I forgot time to time. I dont know if the times I forgot match with the times...

Hey Mike I'm using Mangrove jacks yeast, same brand ive always used previously. Other beers with different yeast do the same thing. When you say picking up some air in your auto siphon can you describe more what that means? Do you mean when pumping the beer from the grainfather into my SS...

Ill give that a try. What specifically in the water could cause this?

Hey Folks I have a problem thats been ongoing for a while now I cant resolve. It seems that about 80% of the time I make a keg of beer I am getting smokey wheaty off tastes. Sometimes I dont get it at all and other times I do. Doesn't seem to matter the recipe, or the fermenter I use. Im using...