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    Mike's King Midas Mix AKA Prilla's Phrygian Potion

    I said Roman soldiers on duty could not get drunk. That hasn't changed for soldiers since time began. And that is why they drank vinigar. And by the way often ancients would drink wine or beer mixed with water to sterlize the water but not get drunk. And small beer was made for women and...
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    Mike's King Midas Mix AKA Prilla's Phrygian Potion

    They found the burial mound of King Midas and the the drinking vessels had the remains of the funerial feast. That was analized and from that Dogfish made their brew and so did I. I did post links to sites about it in my post. Oh and by the way people in the past fermented beverages in order...
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    Mike's King Midas Mix AKA Prilla's Phrygian Potion

    It is long for many reasons. Not only its many ingredients and complexity but because I use techniques many home brewers are unaware of. Also since it uses methods and ingredients wine and mead makers use home brewers of beer must be made aware of them. That is a lot of honey and wine in that...
  4. M

    Mike's King Midas Mix AKA Prilla's Phrygian Potion

    Strange or not they really did drink it 700 BCE in Turkey. And Dogfish does really make a commertial version of it today.
  5. M

    Mike's King Midas Mix AKA Prilla's Phrygian Potion

    Yes but what is it? I mean it's not a beer, wine or mead? I don't know what to call it. Anyway I thought I would share it with you all.
  6. M

    Mike's King Midas Mix AKA Prilla's Phrygian Potion

    The recipe has changed and is simpler.
  7. M

    Mike's King Midas Mix AKA Prilla's Phrygian Potion

    References. http://www.phrygians.com/dinner.html http://www.museum.upenn.edu/new/research/Exp_Rese_Disc/Mediterranean/Midas/intro.shtml http://gogreece.about.com/cs/fooddrink/a/retsina.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscat_grape...
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    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    If you undercut the locals where I am you might just have a good business there.
  9. M

    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    I understand now. I thought he was naming a chain of homebrewing shops. There are such places in the USA where you can brew using their equiptment but none near where I live. In fact the one I know if is like 3,000 miles from my house so that is out of the question. I can buy a pound of...
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    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    I never heard of UBrew so I don't think they are near me at all. Are they a mail order company? Then again knowing American laws if they don't have a store in the USA they might or might not be able to ship to me from Canada. Our laws about drugs and booze are strange, outdated and harsh and...
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    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    My local stores do charge a different price for differnt kinds of hops. With the noble hops costing the most. Since Saaz is a noble hop it costs a lot more than say chinook. Nearly double. That may not be the case where you are but I can get chinook for less than 1.50 per oz. Of course...
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    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    I have heard this before. However a Real Czech Pilsener uses only Saaz and I do enjoy hearing other homebrewers gripe about the price of an entire pound of it. It amuses me.
  13. M

    Imperial (Double) Pilsener

    Thanks I am glad you enjoyed it. I hope you can help me improve this recipe if you have any ideas let me know.
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    Imperial (Double) Pilsener

    Add 70º F distilled water until the level reaches the 4 1/2 gallon mark on the bucket. The saved concentrated wort makes your batch really 5 1/2 gallons but you will lose a lot to sedimentation of yeast and trub so don't worry about it. Aerate the mix by splashing it around or better yet by an...
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    Imperial (Double) Pilsener

    Imperial (Double) Pilsener This beer is inspired firstly by the Real Czech Pilsener's and secondly the Imperial (Double) Pilsener's made by Sam Adams and Rogue's. This beer is not a clone of any beer but is meant to be an Imperial (Double) Pilsener in the Czech style just bigger, a little...
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    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    Don't bother taking the Original Gravity (O.G.) reading (you heard me) because you don't have all the wort in the mix (remember the concentrated wort we removed) it won't be accurate anyway. Don't worry about having 5 1/2 gallons of wort total a 5 gallon secondary can hold 5 1/4 to 5 1/2 anyway...
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    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    I have refined my recipe and posted it to a data base you can see it here. Tell me what you all think of it. Ok I had an epiphany. The whole point of this beer is to be the opposite of an India Pale Ale. That means not bitterness but Aroma hops. So I have staggered the hops throughout...
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    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    The two Imperial Pilsners that were my inspiration were both 8.8% alcohol and one was 74 IBU's the other 110 IBU's for hops so what I am thinking of is. I will use 2 lbs dexatrine cara pils 30 min at 165 F in a muslin bag 2 oz chinook at 60 min muslin bagged 1 oz saaz at 5 min Muslin...
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    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    Ah a bock isn't a pilsner. I want to make an Imperial Pilsner like Sam Adams or Rogue's/Morimoto. Morimoto Imperial Pilsner Imperial Pilsner, part of the Morimoto Signature Series, was launched in September 2003. The beer was selected by internationally acclaimed Chef Masaharu...
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    Imperial or Double Pilsener?

    Has anyone made an Imperial or Double Pilsener? I am thinking of making one but I have never made one before and I do not have a recipe for one? Does anyone have a recipe for an Imperial or Double Pilsener? Thanks Mike
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