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I hadn't noticed we were being exclusionist in this thread. Both are starter kits, small batch and shaped like a key on it's side. They are both aimed at the same market. As both can be used with either vendors mix or any personal recipe I see little difference in the two. The initial mix I...

Well initial tasting is in on my Black Butte Porter clone(s) using BM. I'm rather disappointed with grain and extract attempt and would like some feedback as where it may have gone wrong. My BM extract mix with added grains however is far closer I think, it’s certainly pretty darn good and it’s...

Clearly somebody that is tired of Bud Light ;)

Think I spent $35 on a bucket, spring loaded bottle filler, tubing and siphon. The difference in amount of gunk making it into the bottle as well as the time spent filling the bottles made it a well spent $35. Bottle filling now takes maybe 20 mins and that's mainly because your having to...

Beer machine mix calls for chilling after 3-4 days, it's one week out so I figured it was time to bottle. Took a sample and gravity was at 1.030, not good. Taste test was not to bad, certainly had the darker grains coming through, hops were weak but on the flat side with nothing happening in the...

Be proud dude. That not only looks fantastic you can see it's a quality build and not something made of pressed board that Ikea might sell. Now when and where is the party?

I've got my mixed batch in now, Kit plus grain/extract, that I mentioned in above post and today it's been building up some major pressure. The BM has a pressure gauge on it and it's tried to cross 17 psi several times. I've been loosening the cap to release pressure off and on but don't want...

hmm, I used 3 lbs Light Malt Syrup and .7 lbs of Wheat DME with no issues in a Beer Machine. Pressure did get up there for a short time but considering the Beer Machine is a two piece system with a gasket it didn't leak anywhere and certainly didn't blow it's top. Yeast maybe, you said it was a...

No. Variation on this https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/ag-black-butte-porter-clone-confirmation-260600/ and others as well as looking at what is in the Northern Brewers clone kit. Light Malt Syrup Mutons Wheat DME English Choco Malt 350 Pale Choco Malt 200 Carapils Crystal 80L Galena Cascade...

yeah several of the Black Butte recipes call for 90 mins.

Well we shall see. Went with the same recipe I had used for my Black Butte clone except replaced the extract with their Golden Ale kit. Only did a 30 min boil vs 90 as I doubt more time would make a difference then added the Golden Ale and quick chill. Didn't add any hops which may be a good...

Well was going to use Wyeast but there seems to be such a love/hate relationship with them by brewers.

Still a bubbling... In the long run what does bottling to early do to taste?

I was hoping to bottle this weekend but my attempt at a Black Butte Porter clone is still fermenting away. Fermentation temps have been dead on 68 now for 3 weeks. Another week won't hurt it but is that length of time expected? Yeast: Safale S-04 Ale Yeast Ferm Temp: 68 (ok maybe it hit 67...

That's what I'm thinking of doing. Taking some of my darker grains, add some DME and Cascade/Galena and doing a super mini mash then adding in the Golden Ale to maybe come up with something like a Red but lighter than a Porter. As I said up front anything is better than dullwiser and I might...

I had already switched to my own recipes or variation of published ones using mixed grains and Dry Malt/Liquid Malt plus mix of hops. What I was looking to do was to use up these kits she bought, one not to waste them and two not to get yelled at for not using the things she buys me (those with...

Beer Machine mix and Beer Machine key. I've got leftovers from my Black Butte clone so I could certainly do a partial mash and add some hops then use the BM mix to finish it out, might be tough to come up with the weights although if this brown ale mix came out more like a heavy porter it...

Sorry, Beer Machine, assumed the two were more or less the same in their kits. I hate to toss these packs, wife bought like 6 of them and worse still is 4 are lagers, hate lagers although from everything I've read here they are probably closer to an ale than a real lager.

By tossing I mean the kit ingredients more or less say fill the key, drop in the dry mix, shake it around, add the yeast, top it off and done. So contrary, and I wish I could find it, the post I read about boiling don't do that in any way, shape or form. Actually wouldn't mind a slightly more...

ok so I'm not going to go through over 100 pages to find this so excuse me up front. Somewhere I read that you will get a much better beer out of the kit beer packs if you don't do as instructed and just toss the dry kit, yeast and water but go ahead and boil as you would with a normal...