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Agreed, let it die. I got what I wanted from it. Which, believe it or not, wasn't to troll anyone. I'm still here, still reading threads, brewed a holiday stout last weekend.

Oh, and the art of labels and naming. Also amazing. I have pages and pages of puns and different lines and designs and ideas in my brewing notebook.

I appreciate the input about the club. That is what I was asking about, when it's laid out like that. Whether people would think it was one sided or not. So thanks. I don't understand how it's insulting. I obviously take it seriously. I wouldn't spend hundreds of hours on something I wasn't...

Yes, "grand experiments plan" is exactly how I look at it. After mulling on what some people have said, let me try and explain it in a different light. I am a programmer, and love art. Some of my favorite art pieces are things like fractal arts or randomly generated poetry or a painting that...

I wasn't offering to taste or critique. If you go back a page, they were talking about getting a group together. That's what I am interested in, meeting up and talking with other brewers.

We can hang out when you come to town and you can tell me if your diagnosis holds water.

I have a lot of hobbies. I make furniture, I create electronic devices, I program websites for local charities. This is just one thing I also do, and it's because of the love I get from watching others consume it, like I do when I have people over for dinner and they admire my table or when I...

Thanks. I have a hard time meeting new people because I am shy, and it's a strange situation, and I wanted to know what a brewing community would think about how another brewing community would react. I don't want to put myself into a face to face situation like what I experienced a bit of here...

Hurtful. My question wasn't to get attention or seek advice on me as a person. It was to see how people thought the brewing community at my local shop and the meetups would react. Seems like it would cause a lot of confusion and possibly be met with some resentment. So I think I will keep my...

Agreed on the first part, I understand the second, and I absolutely wouldn't want to go up against pros.

But you may have come across a webpage that has a lot of neat areas in your city that you could forward on to them.

Just some more thoughts (because I have a long rational for everything): If you drink your beer, and you think, "this is a bit thin" or "not bitter enough for an IPA" or "too sweet," you know to fix that. So do I, the same way most of you do. Because you read about increasing the mash...

I do have love for it. I do have a passion. I fret over my efficiency. I DIY my equipment because I want better stuff and can't afford the expensive stuff. I spend 6 hours every other weekend brewing, and countless hours reading this forum. If that's not passion, I don't really understand what...

Honestly, it's inertia. I have a beard. There are times when I want to shave it off, but my wife likes it and it makes me distinct. So I keep it because I like it most of the time and don't want to throw everything off. If I started drinking beer around my friends who have known me for a...

Ha ha. This is actually how I used to be. They would talk about what they were having, and I would just nod and say stupidly ridiculous things like "Yeah, how bout them hops, amiright?" or "Yes, it has a distinct beer aroma." But now, I actually know what I am talking about, from a strange...

Interestingly enough, I have a friend who is vegetarian who cooks at a regular restaurant, so she understands how I feel. But I understand your larger point.

Also, when the world collapses, everyone loves the guy who knows how to make beer. So that's a fun aspect of it. Joking, but only sort of.

Well, it wasn't drivel, it was me trying to explain a bit about who I am and my process. But, that's a good point, regardless. I go out with friends all the time to bars, and people love to drink beer and talk and hang out. I love my friends, and want to be a part of that, but don't have a...

I don't drink at all, I just don't like the taste of alcohol and one of the four times I have drank when I was 15, I fist fought a friend of mine and didn't like who I became. Obviously I don't have to drink until I am belligerently drunk, so at this point, it's just become part of who I am, a...

Edited November 19th, 2012 ******************************** To save you the time of reading all (currently) 27 pages, let me recap: 1. I am accused of being a troll - I am not 2. Most people think I should at least taste the beer - I still do not 3. The general consensus is that people wouldn't...