1st-didn't turn out so well, low efficiency(63%), too many unfermentables, too sweet, only 3.2% abv(hoffbrau dunkel clone)
2nd-much better, double milled grain at LHBS, 73% Eff, hit temps, great flavor...really nice beer(amber ale)
3rd-used my own mill(corona style), 78% eff, hit temps...