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    can cider be made without yeast using whole apples with skin left on?

    I made some really good wild yeast fermented cider this year. I didn't rely on the yeast on the skins though--just about anything can end up on an apple skin. The yeast you want are inside core of the apple. I cleaned my whole apples in a mild sulfite wash (about a tsp in 6 gallon of wash...
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    Wine cellar at 50 degrees

    It won't hurt to have a secondary temp of 50 F. The only thing to keep in mind is that it will slow down your wine's aging. If a recipe calls for 6 months aging at 60 F, yours might take 9 months to get the same results.
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    Cider Fermenting???

    Try aerating with a mixer and adding some DAP if you haven't yet.
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    Cider primary infection-awful aroma/taste

    OK, so here's a final update. I think I've got this thing licked, because I now have several batches coming out of primary without any problems. I don't know how useful this will be for others, but here are a few things that I think are letting my cider primary fermentation go much better: 1...
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    Bottle Bomb Question

    You do NOT want to bottle at 1.030 if there's a chance of refermentation. I would pitch another starter. OR you could add your own sodium benzoate/potassium sorbate and bottle it sweet OR bottle it in 2-liter plastic bottles so no one gets maimed.
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    Cider Catastrophe!!

    Sour, harsh & alcoholic sounds like a good young dry cider. The fizzing could just be a reaction with the apple's malic acid. The vinegar part makes it questionable. It might have been a good idea to rack it with a quarter-teaspoon of sulfite before bottling.
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    Cider primary infection-awful aroma/taste

    First, I'd like to thank everyone that offered help here. I've tried a few of the suggestions offered here, but wasn't sure how much detail I could offer considering I've documented this thing to death in my own notebook! I am familiar with Andrew Lea's site, and it's a terrific resource. That...
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    Cider primary infection-awful aroma/taste

    I've been making hard cider for 3 years now, and I have an intermittent problem with truly awful cider coming out of my primary. I grow, grind and press my own apples-primarily dessert and baking apples (you work with what ya got). I generally add sulfite and wait 24-36 hours, and pitch...
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    Do any members sell or exchange apple scions?

    I had my Dad send me some scion wood last winter. He was worried that they might not survive the trip. They all took except for a few that came from a very old tree. It's great to think that pieces of the farm I grew up on is here with me 2000 miles away. Unfortunately, I don't have any cider...
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    Looking for good fermenter for 1 gal. batches

    How about one of the old sun-tea jars? They are usually made of glass, have a plastic spigot and a large screw on top. I see a lot of them at the local second-hand stores like Salvation Army, etc.
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    plum tree question

    Sometimes fruit trees exhaust themselves and tend toward biennial cropping. Try thinning the fruit each spring. You'll still get a good crop, but it will even out every year. Thinning also helps prevent broken branches.
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    Kmeta: 15 gal. of cider ruined or recoverable?

    Just to be safe, get a sulfur dioxide testing kit from a LHBS or wine shop and test it once it's done fermenting. SO2 can be dangerous in high amounts, but it may very well dissipate as Yooper says.
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    Who has NEVER had an infection?

    I'm working on extract batch number 8, and they've all gone well so far. I'm having a much better time with beer than I did with cider--I think I had to pour about half of that out . . .
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    Time to Boil 6 Gallons

    Takes about 45 minutes for my stovetop to bring 3.5 gallons to a full boil. The pot is a canning pot, and a single burner can't keep up a rolling boil, so it does a little better if I let it straddle two burners.
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    ? one step cider. does it work?

    Well, it has been pasteurized, so it has no yeast to do the work. You will need to do the following: 1. Find some suitable wine yeast. Cote de Blanc or Pasteur Champagne works well. Try to avoid using bread yeast. 2. Take the lid off and replace it with a balloon. Put a pin-hole in the...
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