evilTOJ, check this out, some people from this site I found are in the know, (from a milwaukee area brewers club):
http://www.free90free.com/peshchat/viewtopic.php?t=1142&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=d4e387f6518ca16aafe4a62003b7a2d0
well i sent an email to shirron asking...