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Old 04-08-2012, 03:08 AM   #51
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There are websites like Gardenweb.com if you want to talk about growing clover, catnip, and tomatoes. As a experienced gardener and landscaper, but a novice at growing HOPS, I have found this thread to be more annoying than informative.
not sure about the whole thread, but the opening post sure turned me off. talk about self-righteous - as if there was only one way to grow hops... ugh.
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not sure about the whole thread, but the opening post sure turned me off. talk about self-righteous - as if there was only one way to grow hops... ugh.
That was kinda of my point as well. Do anything you want to with gardening and brewing that is legal and doesn't involve huge amounts of waste, but don't lecture me on doing it differently without proof that I'm doing it wrong.

BTW, I guess you clover grows don't play too much golf.
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2. Once you have a good layer of compost blended into your soil and your hops are planted, Place a good layer of mulch on top of your soil. Mulch is the key to keeping all the moisture and those nutrients in the soil.
How do I blend in a layer of compost without tilling?
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:35 PM   #54
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How do I blend in a layer of compost without tilling?
Oh, you turn the garden over by hand. It's more work than tilling, but it's important for the soil organsims that live in the soil to not disrupt their processes. Gently turning over the soil to work in the compost is fine.

Bob has taught me to not even walk on the soil/beds of the garden, as it compacts them. He as long boards for walking on to work in the garden, but never steps in the actual beds.

Some of my friends have huge, huge gardens and actually designed them that way to use a tiller every year. But that's really not good for the garden, particularly if you want to use less pesticides (we use none) and fertilizers (again, we use none except for compost).
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Oh, you turn the garden over by hand. It's more work than tilling, but it's important for the soil organsims that live in the soil to not disrupt their processes. Gently turning over the soil to work in the compost is fine.
This is very interesting. Makes me wonder - do I even need to turn it in? Can I just spread the compost over the top? I assume the first rain would leach it into the soil. That's what I do for my hops - just spread some around the crown and let the rain do the rest.

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Bob has taught me to not even walk on the soil/beds of the garden, as it compacts them. He as long boards for walking on to work in the garden, but never steps in the actual beds.
Even more interesting...certainly makes sense. I will adopt this idea, thanks! Does this apply to hops too?
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You can just apply as a topdressing but a rough spading helps speed up the incorporation. Kinda lures the worms up to help move it back down into the soil.

Soil compaction is very important to limit, especially with heavy clay soils. The more oxygen you can get down into the root zone, the happier plants you'll have (no matter what you're growing).

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And the neighbors are "worse." I'm fighting wild violets on the left and creeping charlie on the right.
You should grow some of that creeping charlie your self- BYO Magazine just did an article about other herbs and plants that once were used to bitter beer, and creeping Charlie was one of them…
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You should grow some of that creeping charlie your self- BYO Magazine just did an article about other herbs and plants that once were used to bitter beer, and creeping Charlie was one of them…
Haha, yeah, I laughed pretty hard when I saw that! I have no shortage. But I'm not putting that stuff anywhere near my beer.
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The whole concept of a uniform, homogenous lawn strikes me as odd - where else in nature do you have something like that?

I'd rather have a diverse, healthy vibrant lawn that requires less maintenance and resources that is every bit as beautiful and functional as anything else.
I'm with you on that one. I always thought the concept of lawns was ridiculous. But then, I'm also a complete wacko!
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Thanks for the heads up on creeping charlie, gonna have to do a brew with that now, I have plenty at my new house (lots of shade seems to promote it)

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