First extract brew w/o a kit

I have made about 6 kits and want to expand on my brewing with out going all grain. I usually work 50-60 hours a week so extract saves me time on brew day.

I picked up 2 lbs of Santiam hops from a startup brewery here in Chicago. I want to play around with them a bit. I want to start with a simple lawnmower beer and then maybe make a session or kolsch next. Here is my simple pale ale or lawnmower beer recipe.

Fermentables
6 lb LME - Briess Pulsen Light

Steeping Grains
Amount Fermentable °L
.05 lb American - Caramel / Crystal 10L

Hops:
Amount Variety Type AA time ibu
1 oz Santiam Pellet 6.5Boil 60 min 22.64
1 oz Santiam Pellet 6.5 Boil 20 min 13.71
2 oz Santiam Pellet 6.5 Boil 5 min 8.2

Yeast
dry yeast Safale us-05

I am planning on only putting half the extract in before hops and then putting second in at around 10-15 minutes left in boil to help with keeping color light.

Any input or suggestions are welcome, thanks.

That looks really good to me. Enjoy it.

wahmbush said:

I have made about 6 kits and want to expand on my brewing with out going all grain. I usually work 50-60 hours a week so extract saves me time on brew day.

I picked up 2 lbs of Santiam hops from a startup brewery here in Chicago. I want to play around with them a bit. I want to start with a simple lawnmower beer and then maybe make a session or kolsch next. Here is my simple pale ale or lawnmower beer recipe.

Fermentables
6 lb LME - Briess Pulsen Light

Steeping Grains
Amount Fermentable °L
.05 lb American - Caramel / Crystal 10L

Hops:
Amount Variety Type AA time ibu
1 oz Santiam Pellet 6.5Boil 60 min 22.64
1 oz Santiam Pellet 6.5 Boil 20 min 13.71
1 oz Santiam Pellet 6.5 Boil 5 min 4.51

Yeast
dry yeast Safale us-05

I am planning on only putting half the extract in before hops and then putting second in at around 10-15 minutes left in boil to help with keeping color light.

Any input or suggestions are welcome, thanks.

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You only think that extract saves you time on brew day because nobody has taught you different. I'll brew an all grain in the same time as you do an extract with steeping grains. The key is to eliminate the time consuming parts and streamline the rest. Mashing for an hour, sparging for another 10 after doing a 10 minute mashout and waiting for it all to drain takes time.

I've learned to do BIAB and mill my own grains. My mash takes 30 minutes or less because I don't have to wait for the grain particles to wet through like in a conventional tun. Sparging is done while the first runnings is heating up so there is no extra time there. Squeeze out all the wort in the bag of grains and my efficiency tends to be 85% or better. I usually have my mash done in the time people normally steep the grains. From that point on everything is the same except that I have the full volume for the boil so chilling may take a little longer.

Looks good to me. Let us know how it turns out. I'm not familiar with the hops you're using.

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RM-MN said:

You only think that extract saves you time on brew day because nobody has taught you different. I'll brew an all grain in the same time as you do an extract with steeping grains. The key is to eliminate the time consuming parts and streamline the rest. Mashing for an hour, sparging for another 10 after doing a 10 minute mashout and waiting for it all to drain takes time....

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I am an extract brewer for the time savings as well. This ^^^ is interesting.

OP:: It sounds like you're gonna brew what you're looking for with that recipe.

You must be doing .5 lbs of C10, and not actually .05 lbs like it says, right? I say brew it up!

It looks likes fine beer. Have fun brewing it!

There really is no reason to put any extract in early for this beer. You don't need it to aid in hop utilization, nor for melanoidin formation from boiling it. You can just dump it all in at the end.

boydster said:

You must be doing .5 lbs of C10, and not actually .05 lbs like it says, right? I say brew it up!

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Yes on the .5lbs. Darn typo.

As for extract at the end, I do a full boil in my 8 gallon pot. When is it important to put extract in before hops? What makes the deciding factor?

If you are doing a full volume boil, you can add it all at the beginning if you want. The reason for splitting extract additions is to mimic boil gravity for full volume boils, which helps prevent the extract from darkening and also helps with hop utilization in partial boils.

boydster said:

If you are doing a full volume boil, you can add it all at the beginning if you want. The reason for splitting extract additions is to mimic boil gravity for full volume boils, which helps prevent the extract from darkening and also helps with hop utilization in partial boils.

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Cooking the extract at all is more likely to darken the extract that not cooking, regardless of how dilute you make it. Saving the extract to flameout is fine, just as putting it in at the beginning is fine and splitting it between early and late additions is fine. You're just trying to get it melted and mixed in, prior to cooling.

Also, its been proven by experimentation, by John Palmer and others, that hop utilization is not very dependent on wort gravity.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/hop-utilization-178668/

Not dependent on gravity, but still indirectly correlated. If you dig around, you'll find data and discussion about it. I'm on my mobile otherwise I would link for you, maybe I can do that later on.

Ended up doing the recipe as stated except upped the ending 5min hop addition to 2 oz since I was breaking up 16oz package. I like my beer with big hop flavor and aroma.

Wort ended up very green from the 4oz of hops. These hop pellets were the biggest amount of full leaves(not hop powder) from pellets I have seen. I got these hops 3rd hand from New Belgium brewing, so maybe that's why.

what is the startup brewery? Im in the suburbs...

infinity2134 said:

what is the startup brewery?

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Broad Shoulders

Bottling today and surprised by the size of hop leaves in primary due to not filtering wort. Uncarbonated beer is tasting spot on.

After just 2 weeks of conditioning, beer is lightly carbonated with bright white head and refreshing. Santiam brings a light citrus and spice flavor to this pale ale.

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