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Old 01-12-2011, 05:54 PM   #81
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I agree and I guess my point was that I will not drive to Austin to go to a much bigger, badder, "better" store because of it. If there is a different walk in price, there is no way to know it. I check the prices on the site and they are considerably higher than my local guys. I don't have much of a problem with defraying shipping w/ markups, but a place like Austin Homebrew has the buying capacity to offer bulk grain at such a great price that I could justify the drive to Austin. I actually live between Austin and SA, and if there was a $30 walk in price I would go for it. There is no reason that my LHBS with significantly less purchasing power can beat a mega store's price by that much.

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Old 01-12-2011, 10:48 PM   #82
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My LHBS is Northern Brewer. They are a little pricier than Midwest in MPLS, who I would order from before NB opened their second store in Milwaukee, but their 7.99 flat rate does not apply to bulk grain, so it's more reasonable. U.S. 2-row is about $36 (less my 10% discount), imported 25kg bags are pricier, in the $60 range.

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That's how companies subsidize the "free shipping" offers. Roll the cost into heavier/bulk items to deflect the cost. His actual shipping cost isn't "free", mind you.
Compare delivered price to your door when comparing prices. The bags of grain on my website are a loss leader. I suppose I should charge shipping for the bags of grain and lower the price of the grain itself but it will be the same price.

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I agree and I guess my point was that I will not drive to Austin to go to a much bigger, badder, "better" store because of it. If there is a different walk in price, there is no way to know it. I check the prices on the site and they are considerably higher than my local guys. I don't have much of a problem with defraying shipping w/ markups, but a place like Austin Homebrew has the buying capacity to offer bulk grain at such a great price that I could justify the drive to Austin. I actually live between Austin and SA, and if there was a $30 walk in price I would go for it. There is no reason that my LHBS with significantly less purchasing power can beat a mega store's price by that much.
We have a great deal on a 55 pound bag of 2-row in-store only. Walk in price on bags of grain is lower than delivered price for every homebrew store.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:22 PM   #85
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Shipping a 50 pound bag across the street from me cost $23.67 in shipping charges. More if it is further away. So I can charge $54 for a bag of 2-row ($54 - $23.67shipping equals $30.33). Or I can charge $35.99 for a bag like Northern Brewer and add $23.67 in shipping charges = $59.66

So it is a good deal if you have the grain shipped to you.

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But not so good a deal for your local customers.

<<<I suppose I should charge shipping for the bags of grain and lower the price of the grain itself but it will be the same price.>>>

To some, but not to others. It will work out better. Do you have evidence the loss leader concept is making you money in the long run? If not, let them buy grain locally and focus on service and selection.

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I apologize for sounding like I'm telling you how to run your business. I work at a hedge fund, what the hell do I know about running a home brew store. It just sounds like you are trying to be all things to all people.

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On behalf of all of us who do NOT have a LHBS, let alone one with great rates on bulk grain, could you please take your gloating elsewhere?

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It's a 50 lb sack of Great Western 2-row. Morebeer sells Great Western Pale ale for about the same price in five pound bags.
https://morebeer.com/view_product/85...n__Pale_-_5_lb
Holy moly! You beat my price by 2 bucks a sack! Thanks!
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But not so good a deal for your local customers.

<<<I suppose I should charge shipping for the bags of grain and lower the price of the grain itself but it will be the same price.>>>

To some, but not to others. It will work out better. Do you have evidence the loss leader concept is making you money in the long run? If not, let them buy grain locally and focus on service and selection.
The in store price is lower. Loss leader is simply a loss of money.
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