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Old 10-10-2012, 02:38 AM   #41
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What's wrong with zealousness or fanboyism? I dont' BIAB, but get me talking about homebrewing and I'll be overzealous. I'm a boor at a party for sure.

Since when do we criticize our own members for being overzealous? Geez.

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What's wrong with zealousness or fanboyism? I dont' BIAB, but get me talking about homebrewing and I'll be overzealous. I'm a boor at a party for sure.

Since when do we criticize our own members for being overzealous? Geez.
There is a difference between being passionate about something and being dismissive about anything that you are not passionate about.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:55 AM   #43
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There is a difference between being passionate about something and being dismissive about anything that you are not passionate about.
Much ado about nothing. Or, maybe I'm really good at not stepping in the doo.
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I've noticed the same. I hate to make this analogy, but it reminds me a lot of the DOS boys back in the late 80's early 90's. They took great pride in being able to make their systems do what they wanted, and definitely carried an attitude of elitism and snobbery, which was ironic because their computers all sucked. I'm not saying your systems suck. I mean having a motorized pulley system bolted to the garage ceiling is a pretty serious investment. But it definitely doesn't give license for any kind of attitude, especially when I'm making beer at 80% efficiency with one 10 gallon kettle and a water cooler.
Do you have a link so we can call them out?
Any who has some kind attitude over beer brewing is a bit of a douche don't you think?
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:20 AM   #45
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Do you have a link so we can call them out?
Any who has some kind attitude over beer brewing is a bit of a douche don't you think?
Nah, I could never instigate something like that. Although I'll have to say, the BIAB attitude being discussed could be a knee jerk reaction to the attitude the "real" AG brewers give them. I know I've told people that IMHO BIAB sucks before lol. I tried it twice, and had an absolute nightmare with it. For me a cooler mashtun is easier and better on all accounts. That's me though. And passedpawn is right, as usual. We need to stick together as brew bros. Why, just a week ago a guy was having trouble hitting his FG, and I told him his problems would go away if he starting AG brewing. How douchey was that?
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There are fan boys for every aspect of homebrewing. BIAB zealots, All grain snobs, hop heads, maltsters, keggers, the thermapen salesmen!... Sometimes they're a little douchey but personally I have learned a **** load from all of them. People just get really passionate about their technique, system, gadget; you just have to filter out the hammer over the head.

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Although I'll have to say, the BIAB attitude being discussed could be a knee jerk reaction to the attitude the "real" AG brewers give them.
For me personally this is what I see. BIAB people somewhat defending their technique from people who look down on it saying it does not work, it is highly inefficient, it is too difficult to lift some weight up. And trying to bolster their ranks in order to prove to those people who talk down to them that it does work. I admit I probably am one of those people who is the reason this thread was started. I will back off when it comes to trying to bolster the ranks.
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I don't look down on Brew in bag folks at all, but why do it at all?

I've done a brew in bag and it's ok. How hard is it to pick up a 5 dollar ice chest second hand and build a braid?

I've done both, I'll spend the extra 10 dollars and one hour of time to build it.

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I don't look down on Brew in bag folks at all, but why do it at all?

I've done a brew in bag and it's ok. How hard is it to pick up a 5 dollar ice chest second hand and build a braid?

I've done both, I'll spend the extra 10 dollars and one hour of time to build it.
That's not the point though. I actually started as an AG 3-vessel brewer. I have my own cooler MT, a March pump, and a full system for making some great beer. That said, I like the convenience of BIAB. It's easier on the clean-up, and I don't find it difficult to maintain my mash temperatures. I use a keggle with a custom-made bag, and it is a super easy brew day - that's important when you have a 1-year-old. Add to that the fact that my beer quality hasn't suffered and you have a pretty compelling process.
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What's wrong with zealousness or fanboyism? I dont' BIAB, but get me talking about homebrewing and I'll be overzealous. I'm a boor at a party for sure.


Sad but true about all of us I'm sure.

At party..

Friend "Hey man this beer is great!"

Me "yeah it's ok, It has a, b, c off flavors and I wish the brewer would have done x, y, z"

Friend :confused look, sips beer, moves on to next conversation:
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