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Old 09-26-2012, 01:01 AM   #1
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Just brewed my 2nd All-Grain batch. Still BIAB for now. The better AG setup is currently being saved for so I should have it by Christmas. BIAB is fine for now but it's just hard to get all of the water out of the bag.

Followed this recipe - All-Grain - Citra IPA from Battery_BreweryNJ.

I did a few tweaks though:

1. Added 16oz of Corn Syrup at the start of boil.
2. Started with 2 ounces of Citra @ 60 instead of .75 ounces.
3. He dry hopped with Simcoe. I will most likely dry hop with 2 ounces of Citra instead. Will see. I have 2oz of both but leaning toward all-citra on this batch.

Boil size was 4 gallons reduced to about 2.75 gallons at the finish. I somehow got away with keeping the lid almost on the kettle the whole time. No idea how that worked w/o boiling over.

Battery reported an OH of 1.060. I measured 1.040 @ 60 Degrees F

This scares me because, I followed his recipe exactly + added 16 ounces of corn syrup yet I I scored under. My beer recipe application said, with this I should hit 1.078. ****.

I guess that's the problem with BIAB. You simply don't extract the level of fermentable sugars needed. This sucks.



Going to rack this now and will update with OG + some photos as I brew & in the glass.

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If anyone has any yays or nays on the switch from 2oz Simcoe Dry Hop to Citra instead, let me know. I have still 10-14 days before I dry hope.

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I have not done a biab, but could you post your grain bill I'm sure someone else will be able to help. The link was to a 5 gallon batch,was it scaled down proportionatly?

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I have not done a biab, but could you post your grain bill I'm sure someone else will be able to help. The link was to a 5 gallon batch,was it scaled down proportionatly?
That's what I did..a 5 gallon batch. Here's the recipe..pretty much identical:

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I would be much more concerned that you left the lid on the pot the entire boil. It's going to be have a lot of DMS.

Also why did you add corn syrup? If you were trying to bump up your gravity, you should have added some extract instead.

Efficiency problems can vary widely from your equipment to water to your crush (main culprit generally). Once you have an idea what your typical efficiency is you can dial in your grain bills.

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I didn't leave the lid on the pot. I left it half on. A lot of evaporation still happened. It's very cold up here today. My last batch of hefe lost 50% of my wort. So I wanted to avoid that.

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Also, Midwest supplies crushed the grains. I assume they would have done a good job.

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For BIAB, you can ask for double crushed grains, which will help with efficiency a lot. I gained 10% efficiency from 60% to 70% double crushing alone. there's no need to worry about a stuck sparge with BIAB.

Also, make sure that all starches are converted with an iodine test just to make sure it's all converted.

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Don't blame BIAB. You will get yelled at for that in a matter of minutes on here. I have recently been doing BIAB and the worse efficiency I've gotten was 2 points under the targeted OG. It was about 68% since recipe was formulated for 70%.

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I did not see mash times or temp listed that can make a difference also.Sorry if I missed it.

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I did not see mash times or temp listed that can make a difference also.Sorry if I missed it.
60 Minutes @ 154F.


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For BIAB, you can ask for double crushed grains, which will help with efficiency a lot.
I was not aware of this being possible. Thanks for the tip.


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Don't blame BIAB. You will get yelled at for that in a matter of minutes on here. I have recently been doing BIAB and the worse efficiency I've gotten was 2 points under the targeted OG. It was about 68% since recipe was formulated for 70%.
Not blaming but, I've seen guys who do batches without the bag and they seem to be able to sparge a lot easier than I was able to. So I just assumed I'm not getting as much as I can out of these grains.
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