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Old 01-25-2008, 02:02 AM   #11
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I started learning a LITTLE linux on my own with some guidance from a casual user. But I had trouble connecting to my verizon wireless network with ubuntu. I wouldnt mind a little guidance. Ill also looking into those discounts. I just dont want to say goodbye to my Pent 4 3.2 Ghz processor and 17 inch wide screen.

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Old 01-25-2008, 05:27 PM   #12
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I've never even seen an Opteron system. You will now be my nemesis.
The point was that pathetic is relative. I do a lot of compiling so I need multiple cores and at the time the octocore AMD's weren't out. I also do quite a bit of virtualization and that eats memory in (for how I used it) 2 GB chunks per instance.

I could, and had, brought that machine to a screeching halt given all of the things I used it for. Despite the specs, it SUCKED as a gaming rig because it wasn't built with latency in mind.

That machine is now in a datacenter handling e-mail traffic for my company (sold it to them) and doing it well.

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I started learning a LITTLE linux on my own with some guidance from a casual user.
I muddled through it for the first few days and was rather pissed. I was downloading those deb files and couldn't get the installer working (he he, silly me - I tried clicking on the files), had no idea how to find things... Of course, this was "back in the day" (which now, means pre-Ubuntu). I found the IRC communities surrounding each of the distros and fell in love. If you feel like giving it a go again, grab an IRC client (I suggest Chatzilla) and join the Freenode network.

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But I had trouble connecting to my verizon wireless network with ubuntu.
I personally think Ubuntu sucks. I am constantly blown away by how much acclaim Ubuntu gets. I half-respect that Ubuntu recognizes and strives to support the Free Software ideals and community but aside from that, I see nothing spectacular about it. Honestly speaking, most people trying Ubuntu for the first time are coming over from Windows or MAYBE Mac and in either case they are using hardware that is often built around WIndows or Mac. This means, more often than not, they have hardware designed to restrict the user into a binary-only world so that they have no control. This means things like most integrated Wifi drivers simply DON'T work using only Free Software. I urge everyone to boycott companies that think it's okay to do that, but for those who can't there ARE distros that handle them MUCH better than Ubuntu does. Sidux, for instance, or SimplyMepis. Linux Mint also is gaining popularity. On the RPM driven side you've got PCLOS and Suse. Fedora and Debian and Ubuntu all have commitments to Free Software and so will NOT have most of those things work "out of the box" and it's wrong to expect them to. Unfortunately, many people in the Ubuntu crowd are so enamored with it that they suggest it without realizing that and turn a LOT of people off.

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I don't trust Maxtor, and I haven't for many many years
Perhaps it wasn't clear, but that was my point too. :P 5 years ago, Maxtor sucked. TODAY, Maxtor drives are Seagate drives that are no longer cutting edge. Seagate-Maxtor uses the Seagate brand to push "cutting edge" drives and sells "regular" drives under the Maxtor brand. I still use Seagate myself but I wouldn't avoid Maxtor based on experiences five years ago because there have been signifigant changes since. Until recently, I also had horrific experiences with WD but my last few have been stellar, even threatening Seagate.
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