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**Neopol** · 10-10-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bmason1623

I received a call back from the rep at Country Malt. Hop contracts are NOT available to home brewers. Their rationale is that all of the home brewers would run up orders on hops which are already in tight supply. We can buy hops that are in stock but that's about it. Also, some prices, mainly for hops I was told, have gone up. Once we get the quote we will adjust if we need to.

Well it was worth a try anyway...thanks for pursuing this.

**bmason1623** · 10-10-2012, 11:38 PM

for those of us in hop splits (myself included) let's try to have a back up hop in mind in case our first choice is out of stock.

**starman** · 10-10-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bmason1623

I received a call back from the rep at Country Malt. Hop contracts are NOT available to home brewers. Their rationale is that all of the home brewers would run up orders on hops which are already in tight. We can buy hops that are in stock but that's about it. Also, some prices, mainly for hops I was told, have gone up. Once we get the quote we will adjust if we need to.

Thanks for looking into this. That said I don't see the logic of what they're saying. If we want a 2014 contract for 500 lbs of hops the only thing it potentially hurts is retail prices. MCM makes the same markup they'd make no mater who buys and supply side has ample time to react and plant more acres if they want.

This reeks of the same stench as Briess products. The price increase in hops he's talking about better be incremental ~5% and not gouging.

If MCM won't do it, some other broker will.

**bmason1623** · 10-10-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by starman

Thanks for looking into this. That said I don't see the logic of what they're saying. If we want a 2014 contract for 500 lbs of hops the only thing it potentially hurts is retail prices. MCM makes the same markup they'd make no mater who buys and supply side has ample time to react and plant more acres if they want.

This reeks of the same stench as Briess products. The price increase in hops he's talking about better be incremental ~5% and not gouging.

If MCM won't do it, some other broker will.

I agree. I wonder if hopunion would deal directly with us?

**bmason1623** · 10-11-2012, 12:02 AM

I will investigate a few places for hop contracts next week. Just out of curiosity, how many pounds do you guys think we could order?

**ylpaul2000** · 10-11-2012, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bmason1623

I will investigate a few places for hop contracts next week. Just out of curiosity, how many pounds do you guys think we could order?

Well how many did we have for this buy? 55, 66 pounds maybe? Multiply by four or five times a year and I think that would be a conservative estimate.

**starman** · 10-11-2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ylpaul2000

Well how many did we have for this buy? 55, 66 pounds maybe? Multiply by four or five times a year and I think that would be a conservative estimate.

Off the top of my head I think there are splits for at least 8 plus

2x nelson
1x jade
2x saaz
1x cascade
1x magnum
1x northern brewer

**ylpaul2000** · 10-11-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by starman

Off the top of my head I think there are splits for at least 8 plus

2x nelson
1x jade
2x saaz
1x cascade
1x magnum
1x northern brewer

So then, 88 times 4-5. I know on the last buy I bought 11 pounds of styrian goldings by myself in addition to other splits. I would think that others would probably want to get in on a larger hop buy as well, especially if they were hops that were a variety that is harder for home brewers to find on a regular basis. I think 400-500 pounds in a year could be done easily, seeing as we do that much already.

**ylpaul2000** · 10-11-2012, 01:49 AM

YIKES!!!!!!!!

As bill recommended I was checking the country malt catalogue for a "back up" hop in case the variety I wanted was sold out and there is was! A large SOLD OUT over the 2012 Nelson Sauvin hops. Well that sucks!!! Back to the drawing board I guess. The organic version is still available but at $24.00/LB. that is a bit rich for my blood.

**bmason1623** · 10-11-2012, 01:55 AM

The salesman told me that hops were moving fast.