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Old 07-08-2009, 07:42 PM   #21
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Marvellous. Cheers everyone, I'll wander by the shop one day next week and see if anything people have mentioned are on the shelves. Is going to be fun!

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Old 07-08-2009, 07:49 PM   #22
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Has anyone mentioned Fat Tire or something similar? Amber style beers seem to be something that Americans have latched on to, as well.

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Old 07-08-2009, 09:34 PM   #23
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IMO Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is the base line for American craft brews. I'm not saying I like it, I also found it too bitter and a hollow experience.
I like a good pale ale, and I despise SNPA. Don't understand all the love for it here. Different strokes I guess.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:52 PM   #24
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Other than the Bud's and Miller's (which is not good beer!!), there are no hard guidelines for typical American beer.
Just for reference, here's the list of the top 50 craft brewers in the US. (Just look at the first list).
Brewers Association Releases Top 50 Breweries List


Whilst I don't disagree with you I don't totally agree with you.

The top 10 in sales tells me that there is a quality product being made that falls into guidlines for an "American" beer.

Top 50 Overall Brewing Companies by Beer Sales Volume
(Based on 2008 sales)
Rank Brewing Company City State
1 Anheuser-Busch InBev St. Louis MO
2 MillerCoors Brewing Co. Chicago IL
3 Pabst Brewing Co. Woodridge IL
4 Boston Beer Co. Boston MA
5 D. G. Yuengling and Son Inc. Pottsville PA
6 Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. Chico CA
7 Craft Brewers Alliance, Inc. Portland OR
8 New Belgium Brewing Co. Fort Collins CO
9 High Falls Brewing Co. Rochester NY
10 Spoetzl Brewery Shiner TX


I know you went to just the craft brews list at the top but on the bottom list there are 3 that stand out (the top 3). If there was no standard and it was a crappy example of American beer they wouldn't be in business.

Granted they don't have much taste and a ton of carbonation but they are consistent and outsell the other ones in the list. Surprised Miller isn't there but oh well... no tears shed.

They are good examples of American beer considering probably 80% of the market goes to them.

I've become a beer snob but you still have to respect the big boys.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:29 PM   #25
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Whilst I don't disagree with you I don't totally agree with you.

The top 10 in sales tells me that there is a quality product being made that falls into guidlines for an "American" beer.
I suppose you are right that most of America considers it a quality product, but you'd be hard pressed to find many true beer lovers that enjoy any of the top 3.

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Surprised Miller isn't there but oh well... no tears shed.
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Top 50 Overall Brewing Companies by Beer Sales Volume
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1 Anheuser-Busch InBev St. Louis MO
2 MillerCoors Brewing Co. Chicago IL
3 Pabst Brewing Co. Woodridge IL
It's a sad state, but you are correct, these are the main beer styles of the US.....

Isn't it interesting that number one is owned by a Belgium company(InBev), number two is owned by a South African company(SABMiller) and owns two of the largest formerly competing breweries in the US (Miller and Coors) and number three doesn't actually brew anything!! It only owns the 'portfolios' for the beer.... whatever that means.
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:01 AM   #26
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Ok so I am in college and have drank an exuberant amount of the top 3 on the list, it may be b/c I am in milwaukee but by far the best of the main stream is Pabst Blue Ribbon by far with the old Schlitz coming in second. If I want a good craft brew Fat tire amber is great and comes in 22oz bottles which is a plus. Also there is no midwest love on this list but if you get a chance get anything by New Glarus Brewing Comp. esp. Spotted Cow (a farmhouse ale) or Lake Front Brewery they make all kinds and are all good (esp. The Riverwest Stien Beer or the East Side Dark) excepte there wheat is average. For a good wheat beer get a 312 by Goose Island brewing company I drink that a music festivals in Chicago like it is water all summer long. also Rouge is outstanding esp their Dead Guy ale or the Mocha Porter, but good luck getting something fresh unless you have someone overnight it to you.

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Old 07-09-2009, 01:24 AM   #27
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but you'd be hard pressed to find many true beer lovers that enjoy any of the top 3.
"True beer lovers" sounds like "true fans", etc. IE, its a bunch of elitist crap.


Plenty of people love beer and love BMC.
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:13 AM   #28
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you know this thread has really gone on too long about BMC without anyone envoking Evan's law....

So yeah don't drink the iBMC products, they're pisswater

Notice it's now iBMC like the ipod, even BMC gets a cool i in front of it.

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If you see anything from Great Lakes Brewing Co. you should definitely give that a whirl. They are solid.
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Although I'm sure petep1980 will be here soon and act as if someone kicked his dog and ****ed his wife just to bitch about how crappy Great Lakes beers are (along with virtually every other microbrew out there).
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"True beer lovers" sounds like "true fans", etc. IE, its a bunch of elitist crap.


Plenty of people love beer and love BMC.
I don't consider people who love bmc "beer lovers".
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