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02-26-2013, 08:24 PM
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The Dude abides.
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lawsuit against Bud and others for diluting beer...
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02-26-2013, 09:10 PM
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I thought it was tasting better as of late. 
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02-26-2013, 09:32 PM
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I'm surprised AB cares enough about a $5m lawsuit to even bother to respond in the press the way they did. They probably spill more than that a day.
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02-26-2013, 09:57 PM
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All joking aside I thought that was the usual process for them in making their beer. It makes sense doesn't it, we all know it is hard to exactly predict that your beer will come out at 5.1% but for us it doesn't matter. It makes good sense to brew a stronger beer then teste the ABV and then you know how much water to add to get you to 5%.
Funnest thing is it states the lawsuit is based on information from former employees. Whos to say they had any idea of the process and all they saw was beer being watered down 
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02-26-2013, 10:39 PM
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"Budweiser and Michelob each boast of being 5 percent alcohol, while some "light" versions are said to be just over 4 percent."
"The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said."
I could be understanding this wrong, but taking the greatest ABV (5) and the greatest dilution (8) that would make 4.6% ABV...with the least ABV (4) and the least dilution (3) that would give you 3.88% ABV. It seems like a pretty big lawsuit for a loss of 0.12-0.40% ABV
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02-26-2013, 10:43 PM
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Almaigan Brewing Co.
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Hmm, I see there are multiple threads on this. So, I'll copy some of what I said in another thread. I think it has been a practice of AB to brew a stronger beer and water it down for quite some time. The key is, the beer starts out stronger than the 5% ABV advertised on the bottle and then is blended down to the correct strength. I think this practice saves them tank space and allows them to brew more beer, saving them money.
Again, I suspect Josh Boxer got drunk one night, one of the AB Fairfield plant employees was at the same party, told him about this practice and, when he woke up the next day, he didn't remember it correctly, "AB adds water to their beer to save money?!?! Lawsuit time!!"
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02-26-2013, 10:46 PM
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Just how much water would you have to add to a 5% ABV beer to remove 3% of that ABV? It would have to be 3/1 water at that point, wouldn't it?
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02-26-2013, 10:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aboo
Just how much water would you have to add to a 5% ABV beer to remove 3% of that ABV? It would have to be 3/1 water at that point, wouldn't it?
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3% of 5% is .15% of delta. So that'd be 4.85% ABV final product.
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02-26-2013, 11:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aboo
Just how much water would you have to add to a 5% ABV beer to remove 3% of that ABV? It would have to be 3/1 water at that point, wouldn't it?
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"The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said."
I took this as a literal statement. If the stated content is 5% ABV, cutting that by 3% results in 4.85%. I could be wrong, but to me it seemed logical.
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02-26-2013, 11:08 PM
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And the Attorneys will settle the suit, collect 60% and the US moves on to the next lawsuit.
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