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Old 06-07-2011, 10:48 PM   #11
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I always tip $1 for anything the bartender does.
That's generally how I tip. Each pint is a $1 tip, plus $1 for each additional item I get, like a meal. If they gave me especially good advice on a special beer they have in stock, maybe $2. If they listen to me talk about homebrewing... that's a tip in itself. :-)
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:54 PM   #12
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I would if I could get a growler filled here. Remember, your server pays income tax based on a percentage of his sales whether he gets a tip or not. If you stiff him, you're really making him pay Uncle Sam to serve you.
Is that really true? I don't know any bartenders that pay taxes on the COMPANIES sales. When I was a bartender (five years ago) I only paid taxes on my hourly wage and tips.
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:59 PM   #13
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When I bartended, we had to claim our credit card tips or 6% of our sales as income.

BTW 15% is the standard tipping rate for meals. At the bar, a bone a drink for small bills or 15% for "meal sized" bills.

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I would if I could get a growler filled here. Remember, your server pays income tax based on a percentage of his sales whether he gets a tip or not. If you stiff him, you're really making him pay Uncle Sam to serve you.
I have to disagree, knowing several people who work or have worked in restaurants, myself included. You are only taxed on income, not company sales. Unless you own the company/restaurant, you're only taxed on hourly wages and tips. And unless your boss is a complete jerk, you can claim less than 15% on tips if you honestly made less than that. As far as making you claim 6%, lets face it, that's nothing. You've gotta be a pretty bad server if you don't make 6% in tips. Even the worst servers come out of a night with 10%.


But back to the thread, no I don't tip for growler fills. Most of the time when I'm getting a growler filled, I'm at the bar for a few drinks anyway, so I tip on what I drink.
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Old 06-07-2011, 11:23 PM   #16
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When I bartended I was taxed on my hourly and claimed tips, not sales.

However, I had to tip my bar back a % of my sales. That is where bartenders can get screwed if they fill growlers all day and no tips. They'd still have to tip out the bar back or busser.

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i always tip $1 for anything the bartender does.
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Most of the bars I go to price their beers at 4 bucks a pint, so if I pay cash I always just hand over a 5 and call it good. If I run a tab, I usually tip about 5 bucks.

Yeah, a bartender is just filling glasses while a waiter/waitress has to do a lot more. But the bartender is also having to deal with a lot more people who become jackasses as soon as the slightest bit of alcohol enters their system so I kind of have more sympathy for them. Especially on Friday and Saturday nights. Plus, a lot of bars I've been to have had as many as 100 people in them and only one bartender working, so he's busting his butt. If I'm making him take the time to fill a growler, I'm definitely gonna give him something for it. Probably a couple bucks.

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Old 06-07-2011, 11:42 PM   #19
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When I bartended I was taxed on my hourly and claimed tips, not sales.

However, I had to tip my bar back a % of my sales. That is where bartenders can get screwed if they fill growlers all day and no tips. They'd still have to tip out the bar back or busser.
We had to tip 2% of sales to hosts/bussers, but servers also tipped bartenders 2% for making their drinks. Guess it depends where you work.
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Old 06-08-2011, 12:04 AM   #20
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I used to work in Rochester NY, being a bartender meant lower minimum wage... like 4.60 an hour in 2008. We needed tips to survive and we worked hard for them. A dollar or two isn't much to spare unless your bar tender is useless, in which case them not earning tips may pursuade them into a job they're better suited.

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