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Old 01-08-2008, 04:37 AM   #11
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I can not say good or bad about the SS braid. but I'd give a big thumbs up for a CPVC manifold. I have not stuck mine yet.
+1 CPVC works great for me as well
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:56 AM   #12
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thats if its the yellow CPVC
white pvc is a no no
obviously

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Old 01-08-2008, 05:18 AM   #13
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I also use CPVC. Easy to manufacture, and hasn't stuck yet.

I loved attacking it with the Dremel. Blood Pressure dropped 10 points that day.

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Old 01-08-2008, 05:42 AM   #14
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I recieved a brand new Barley Crusher for Xmas and used it for the firsr time on the 08-08-08 RIS. I have a 48qt Coleman and SS braid. I loved the crush, but the flow from the SS Braid was twice as slow as it has been with grains crushed by my LHBS. I think that I will be switching to a copper or cpvc now, and see if that helps. Besides, the SS braid seems to just get caught up in my stiring and gets all deformed. PITA if you ask me.

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Old 01-08-2008, 06:47 AM   #15
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I used my new stainless steel braid mash tun for the first time yesterday.

I was not impressed at all. The drain was incredibly slow to seemingly stuck. I had to constantly use the mash paddle and sweep grain off of the braid. I didn't get grain in the braid or wort. I think the braid just got crushed, although I was only mashing 11 pounds of grain.
Yep, that sounds to me like you had a polymer braid, not a stainless steel braid. SS braids are NOT easy to crush, and if they do, they stay crushed. You would see this after your mash. Check to make sure you are using the right thing.

If that's not it, I am not sure what it could be. Check to make sure the end is crimped or closed some other way so that grain is not getting inside the braid. Also make sure that it is not stretched and deformed in some place (especially at the barb to the bulkhead).

Hope you get it figured out. A SS braid should work MUCH better than that.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:39 PM   #16
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Are you 100% positive you have stainless or is it possible you picked up that braided plastic stuff from home depot? You did take the rubber hose out right?
I've never had a stuck sparge with my braid and I crush the heck out of my grain and have done 50% wheat.
Yep and yep. I definitely passed on hoses made out of synthetic polymer and picked up the braid from the stainless steel box that had the stainless steel sticky on the braid. If you hold the synthetic and stainless in each hand you can tell the difference.

I did get the tube out. The braid got a bit elongated in the process but I was able to push it back into shape. Perhaps that was the problem.
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I don't care for the braid, I had slow drains and the braid kept floating around. I built a cpvc manifold and I get 82-85% efficiency each and every time.

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Yep and yep. I definitely passed on hoses made out of synthetic polymer and picked up the braid from the stainless steel box that had the stainless steel sticky on the braid. If you hold the synthetic and stainless in each hand you can tell the difference.

I did get the tube out. The braid got a bit elongated in the process but I was able to push it back into shape. Perhaps that was the problem.
Are you using a hose on the drain output? How far does it drop down when you're draining? If you don't use a hose, you won't pull a decent siphon so the drain will be slow regardless of your separation medium.
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Are you using a hose on the drain output? How far does it drop down when you're draining? If you don't use a hose, you won't pull a decent siphon so the drain will be slow regardless of your separation medium.
Never thought of that. Hmm...
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Bobby, have you switched over to your keg MLT yet? Have you decided what your going to use - braid vs false bottom?

Since I got my barley crusher and now have a finer crush, my (small) false bottom doesn't cover the entire bottom of the keg and wants to stick during recirculation. If it was a full false bottom I don't think it would be as big of a problem, but I'm also wondering if using a large braid would be better. That's what MonsterMash uses (or used to at least) in his giant system with good results and he recirculates through a HERMS.

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