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Old 11-02-2008, 05:51 PM   #1
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Hi All,

So I just built my MLT and I'm eager to get an all-grain batch started. I don't have a yard though - I'm in an apartment. But I do have a small outdoor patio, off the second floor. It's about 4ftx3.5 ft. Is it safe to use an outdoor burner in this space? (railing is metal, sort of like a fire escape that doesn't go anywhere).

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Old 11-02-2008, 05:58 PM   #2
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is it a concrete patio or wooden one? Would you get evicted? Are you allowed to grill out there? I'd say if they landlord permits patio grilling, you would be fine

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Old 11-02-2008, 06:00 PM   #3
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Most apartments have a 10' rule: No barbecues or open flame within 10 feet of the building.

Now as to how stringent they are on this rule, that varies from place to place.
One place I lived they enforced this like Nazis.
But the last place I was at I did partial boils on a turkey fryer in my attached garage with the door wide open.

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Old 11-02-2008, 06:04 PM   #4
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The patio is metal; it's like an enclosed fire escape. As for the landlord, I can barely get calls returned, so I think it'd be fine.

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Depends on your local codes, This is directly from the NFPA:

NFPA 1:10.11.7 For other than one- and two-family dwellings, no hibachi, gas-fired grill, charcoal grill, or other similar devices used for cooking, heating, or any other purpose, shall be used or kindled on any balcony or under any overhanging portion or within 10 ft (3 m) of any structure. Listed electric ranges, grills, or similar electrical apparatus shall be permitted.

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I just moved into an apartment and while the deck is like 15 feet long, it's only like 6 feet wide. No grills or burners. Now I have to brew on the sidewalk.

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as long as you don't think you'll burn the place down, go for it. you may wish to invest in a fire extinguisher

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Depends on your local codes, This is directly from the NFPA:

NFPA 1:10.11.7 For other than one- and two-family dwellings, no hibachi, gas-fired grill, charcoal grill, or other similar devices used for cooking, heating, or any other purpose, shall be used or kindled on any balcony or under any overhanging portion or within 10 ft (3 m) of any structure. Listed electric ranges, grills, or similar electrical apparatus shall be permitted.
GREAT; now all you need is the landlord to pipe in a 240 volt 50 amp circuit and plug just for you. Your chances are? You better off looking for a snowflake coming out of a super heated steam pipe line. Be Careful you don't get a 30 day eviction notice, just takes one jerk in the complex playing Mr. Cop on everyone. Surely you must have friends and another location to set up and brew. With multi unit high density dwelling full of people the fire code enforcement people can jump on you in a hot second. You a upper unit, just think what a boilover would do to the people down below. Be careful and just brew at a friends driveway yes a PITA. Hell I did my first propane AG brew at my dads house on his red car finished smooth slick driveway with a big boilover event. No points scored plus he was always a hard ass having eveything spotless.
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+10000 on going with the fire code. Its not worth the problems should something happen. Think of all the beer you could lose in the event of a fire.

Seriously I used to design fire suppression systems and the code is there for a reason. Its not worth breaking it to have a little beer.

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Yeah... the other thing is that my porch overlooks the main road, and apparently the fire department is strict about enforcing the codes. I don't want any trouble.

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