Words and phrases I hate

[Billy-Klubb]

You're one of those guys that refuse to allow "Stephen" or "Frederick" to be shortened to "Steve" or "Fred", aren't you?

Bob isn't going to be happy...

 

[user 19629]

You're one of those guys that refuse to allow "Stephen" or "Frederick" to be shortened to "Steve" or "Fred", aren't you?

Nope.
I can't help it, everytime I read "I brewed a hefe"
My brain translates it to "I brewed a yeast"

 

[GuldTuborg]

Nope.
I can't help it, everytime I read "I brewed a hefe"
My brain translates it to "I brewed a yeast"

I get the same. It makes me a little crazy. I'm all good, though, until I see something like "I wanna brew a heff!" Then I grind my teeth.

You're one of those guys that refuse to allow "Stephen" or "Frederick" to be shortened to "Steve" or "Fred", aren't you?

There's nothing wrong with shortening something. It just makes sense to do it in the right way. The "hefe" part of "hefeweizen" just tells you what kind of weizen it is. Sure, if it's understood that the topic of conversation is only weizens, I'll grant you shortening it to "hefe" can make sense. But it has to be in that specific kind of circumstance.

It's not unlike being too lazy to type out "oatmeal stout" and just saying "I want to brew an oatmeal." What? Brew an oatmeal? What the hell does that even mean? Now, if I ask you, "what kind of stout are you going to brew," and you answer "I'm brewing an oatmeal," now it makes sense. Context. Don't just throw the "hefe" around any old place. Otherwise, it just sounds like you're talking about yeast.

And for the love of god, whatever you do, please don't start any forum threads asking "What kind of yeast should I use in my hefe?"

 

[kombat]

"Artic" It's "ArCtic." There are 2 c's, both are pronounced.

See also "Wensday" and "Febuary."

 

[beaksnbeer]

See also "Wensday" and "Febuary."

Everybody knows is Febrewary

 

[GuldTuborg]

Everybody knows is Febrewary

And maybe if Febrewary grants me a balmy 40F+ day, I'll actually get around to brewing again. I can't take these highs in the single digits and below too much longer.

 

[WesleyS]

I get the same. It makes me a little crazy. I'm all good, though, until I see something like "I wanna brew a heff!" Then I grind my teeth.



There's nothing wrong with shortening something. It just makes sense to do it in the right way. The "hefe" part of "hefeweizen" just tells you what kind of weizen it is. Sure, if it's understood that the topic of conversation is only weizens, I'll grant you shortening it to "hefe" can make sense. But it has to be in that specific kind of circumstance.

It's not unlike being too lazy to type out "oatmeal stout" and just saying "I want to brew an oatmeal." What? Brew an oatmeal? What the hell does that even mean? Now, if I ask you, "what kind of stout are you going to brew," and you answer "I'm brewing an oatmeal," now it makes sense. Context. Don't just throw the "hefe" around any old place. Otherwise, it just sounds like you're talking about yeast.

And for the love of god, whatever you do, please don't start any forum threads asking "What kind of yeast should I use in my hefe?"

Not really. When someone says they're brewing a Hefe, the only logical ending to that word is weizen. That's not anywhere near the same as saying you're brewing an oatmeal because that's not associated with only one type of beer so there's more than one way to complete that style. It could be stout, porter, pale ale, etc. If someone says their drinking a hefe do you wonder if its a hefestout, hefeporter, hefepale ale, hefesaison? Of course not.

 

[GuldTuborg]

Not really. When someone says they're brewing a Hefe, the only logical ending to that word is weizen.

That's a fair point, and I'll grant it to you. I certainly can't think of any other compound brewing terms starting with "hefe." However, I will throw out a few extra thoughts:

-If we look to the way we use the English terms for these same beers, the terms used seems more logical. When brewed in the US, we speak of American Wheat beers, not American Yeast beers. Germans generally do the same, and recognize categories of weizenbier or weissbier. Why not follow suit?

-Speaking of "hefe yeasts," in particular, is in no way defensible. They're weizen or Bavarian wheat beer yeasts. Nothing about using any one of these will give you, or is suitable for, a hefeweizen and more than it is a kristallweizen, dunkelweizen, weizenbock, or any other type of weizenbier.

-Assuming other people's recipes are "hefes." Do you know whether they're going to filter or not? Is it still a "hefe" if it's served via keg without significant yeast in suspension as you would get in bottle form? I admit I don't know, but I'd guess not. Unless you know how someone else is going to finish and package their beer, call it what it is - a weizenbier.

 

[WesleyS]

That's a fair point, and I'll grant it to you. I certainly can't think of any other compound brewing terms starting with "hefe." However, I will throw out a few extra thoughts:

-If we look to the way we use the English terms for these same beers, the terms used seems more logical. When brewed in the US, we speak of American Wheat beers, not American Yeast beers. Germans generally do the same, and recognize categories of weizenbier or weissbier. Why not follow suit?

-Speaking of "hefe yeasts," in particular, is in no way defensible. They're weizen or Bavarian wheat beer yeasts. Nothing about using any one of these will give you, or is suitable for, a hefeweizen and more than it is a kristallweizen, dunkelweizen, weizenbock, or any other type of weizenbier.

-Assuming other people's recipes are "hefes." Do you know whether they're going to filter or not? Is it still a "hefe" if it's served via keg without significant yeast in suspension as you would get in bottle form? I admit I don't know, but I'd guess not. Unless you know how someone else is going to finish and package their beer, call it what it is - a weizenbier.

All good points that I agree with.
I think, at least among American home brewers, the term Hefe has become a catch all classification for a German wheat beer regardless of the process. Although inaccurate, I guess it doesn't bother me as much as it does other people. When I see someone say they're brewing a hefe, I don't automatically think, "they're brewing a yeast?" I just read it as they're brewing a wheat beer and fermenting with Hefeweizen yeast.

 

[big_len]

"Artic" It's "ArCtic." There are 2 c's, both are pronounced.

In the UK, an "artic" is short for articulated lorry

 

[GuldTuborg]

When I see someone say they're brewing a hefe, I don't automatically think, "they're brewing a yeast?" I just read it as they're brewing a wheat beer and fermenting with Hefeweizen yeast.

And that's probably what people should think, given the current usage of the word. I'm just old and grouchy.

 

[iaefebs]

Back on topic..Words and phrases I hate. Any post containing the words sent from my "Droid, iphone Home Brew mobile app" seriously? two commercials in one sentence. One for your phone and one for the App.

 

[DrunkleJon]

Back on topic..Words and phrases I hate. Any post containing the words sent from my "Droid, iphone Home Brew mobile app" seriously? two commercials in one sentence. One for your phone and one for the App.

I have no idea what you are talking about.


Sent from my Android iPhone using Home Brew mobile app for BlackBerry devices that are suffering from an identity crisis.

 

[WesleyS]

Back on topic..Words and phrases I hate. Any post containing the words sent from my "Droid, iphone Home Brew mobile app" seriously? two commercials in one sentence. One for your phone and one for the App.

Aren't those the worst.


Sent from the middle of nowhere using morse code on a flashlight

 

[Subsailor]

Back on topic..Words and phrases I hate. Any post containing the words sent from my "Droid, iphone Home Brew mobile app" seriously? two commercials in one sentence. One for your phone and one for the App.

I have no idea what you are talking about.


Sent from my Android iPhone using Home Brew mobile app for BlackBerry devices that are suffering from an identity crisis.

I agree!


Sent from Bikini Bottom using Smoke Signals.

 

[Billy-Klubb]

I have no idea what you guys are talking about.


Sent from my Giant Laser Guided Chainsaw using the I'm Gonna Set Your Face On Fire App by Rabid Wolverines High On Angel Dust V3.8.

 

[GuldTuborg]

I have no idea what you guys are talking about.


Sent from my Giant Laser Guided Chainsaw using the I'm Gonna Set Your Face On Fire App by Rabid Wolverines High On Angel Dust V3.8.

You're still on V3.8? What are you, a neanderthal? Time to upgrade, buddy. I'm on V113.8 - damn!

 

[Billy-Klubb]

You're still on V3.8? What are you, a neanderthal? Time to upgrade, buddy. I'm on V113.8 - damn!

I am a neanderthal! I still use my analog hands to do things.


Sent from my Giant Laser Guided Chainsaw using the I'm Gonna Set Your Face On Fire App by Rabid Wolverines High On Angel Dust V23.8.

 

[GuldTuborg]

My hands are all digital, you primitive! Organic material is for losers.

 

[Billy-Klubb]

My hands are all digital, you primitive! Organic material is for losers.

I go in to get bio-mechanical upgrades next month. baby steps.

 

[GuldTuborg]

I go in to get bio-mechanical upgrades next month. baby steps.

You'll get there some day, brother.

 

[GrogNerd]

*sent from the starboard bridge wing on board USS Grognerd using semaphore

 

[jhoneycutt]

Ok yall are getting wierd with all these "sent from" digs.



Sent from the seated position on my toilet.

 

[DrunkleJon]

Successful derail.

The word segue. Especially after the word was sorta adopted by that 2 wheeled dork-vayence.


Shamefully sent from my Segway using Home Brew mobile app

 

[DrunkleJon]

Oh and Southwest when it comes to food. All that means is "We added corn"

 

[GuldTuborg]

Oh and Southwest when it comes to food. All that means is "We added corn"

Is that kinda how "Mexican" means "we melted some cheap ass cheese on top?"

 

[DrunkleJon]

Is that kinda how "Mexican" means "we melted some cheap ass cheese on top?"

Yes, as well as meat that is not good enough to go into dog food. And there may be some taco seasoning and sour cream in there somewhere.

 

[Billy-Klubb]

I don't see the problem.


Sent from my Southwest Mexican Casserole.

 

[mcbaumannerb]

I don't see the problem.


Sent from my Southwest Mexican Casserole.

Refried beans and corn topped with yucko con queso?

 

[WesleyS]

Sounds like you guys need some real Mexican food.



Sent from the headquarters of tacos al pastor...