What can I make w/ these grains?

[Panthro63]

So a few weeks ago, my wife surprised me w/ some gear from Norther Brewer. On top of the gear, I think we accidentally received someone else's package full of grains - but it's been a little too long to try and return/fix the issue.

Anyway - here's what I have:
7lbs. of German Pale Ale - crushed
1 lb. of Briess Munich 10L malt
3 lbs. of Rahr Red Wheat Malt
1oz. Citra Hops

Was curious what do you think I could make with these grains? I'd hate to let them go to waste, as I'm too much of a beginner to take a chance with this recipe - plus, I wouldn't know which yeast would be best to use. Or, if these were your grains, hope you got things figured out!

 

[plumber_bob]

>>>"What can I make w/ these grains?"<<<

Beer,... you can make beer!

I'd try and come up with some more hops. But still you have what you need for a 5 gallon batch. Need more ABV? Use less water.

I throw together recipes with, "What I Got", all the time.

You may even be surprised.

pb

 

[Onkel_Udo]

So a few weeks ago, my wife surprised me w/ some gear from Norther Brewer. On top of the gear, I think we accidentally received someone else's package full of grains - but it's been a little too long to try and return/fix the issue.

Anyway - here's what I have:
7lbs. of German Pale Ale - crushed
1 lb. of Briess Munich 10L malt
3 lbs. of Rahr Red Wheat Malt
1oz. Citra Hops

Was curious what do you think I could make with these grains? I'd hate to let them go to waste, as I'm too much of a beginner to take a chance with this recipe - plus, I wouldn't know which yeast would be best to use. Or, if these were your grains, hope you got things figured out!

It is called "Floor Sweepin's". In this case, grab an oz of bittering hops and call it "Floor Sweepin's American Wheat Ale" or, "Baby-Blue Moon". Those re all pretty fermentable so It will probably land a little north of 6% ABv for 5-Gallons but that is just guessing.

 

[watermelon83]

An irish red, steep the uncrushed, mash the crushed. Add 1/4oz of the hops for bittering and the rest at 15m to go.

 

[Panthro63]

Thanks for the tips guys - any specific Yeast you think I should use for a recipe like this? That's the only missing component.

 

[douglasbarbin]

An irish red, steep the uncrushed, mash the crushed. Add 1/4oz of the hops for bittering and the rest at 15m to go.

You realize that Munich is the darkest grain he has here, right? The beer you make with these grains won't be close to red. In fact, nothing in this recipe would really be in the style of an Irish red ale. Realistically, he is probably looking at an American wheat beer here

 

[watermelon83]

You realize that Munich is the darkest grain he has here, right? The beer you make with these grains won't be close to red. In fact, nothing in this recipe would really be in the style of an Irish red ale. Realistically, he is probably looking at an American wheat beer here

And you realize that he's been handed a hodge-podge mish-mash of someone elses s*** and isn't (most likely) going to be entering it in a BJCP comp. right?? Leave it be and find your argeument elsewhere friend.

 

[Onkel_Udo]

Thanks for the tips guys - any specific Yeast you think I should use for a recipe like this? That's the only missing component.

Um, beer yeast....preferably an ale yeast. It is floor sweepin's...got any yeast cake, harvested yeast, dry packet, anything you forgot about in the back of the fridge? That is the yeast you use.

 

[douglasbarbin]

And you realize that he's been handed a hodge-podge mish-mash of someone elses s*** and isn't (most likely) going to be entering it in a BJCP comp. right?? Leave it be and find your argeument elsewhere friend.

Are you seriously going to try to argue that someone can make an Irish red ale with 7 pounds German pale malt, 3 pounds wheat, a pound of Munich, and Citra? BJCP competition or not, the beer you make with this won't even faintly resemble an Irish red. If you make this recipe expecting an Irish red ale, you are going to be disappointed. No need to be offended that I mentioned this. I entered this thread with the intention of helping, not starting an argument. You gave some less-than-stellar advice and got corrected on it. Nothing personal.

Now, I understand that these are just random ingredients that OP happened upon, but let's call a spade a spade. There are a few different ways to go with these ingredients, but an Irish red is not one of them.

 

[douglasbarbin]

Um, beer yeast....preferably an ale yeast. It is floor sweepin's...got any yeast cake, harvested yeast, dry packet, anything you forgot about in the back of the fridge? That is the yeast you use.

That's what I would say, too. If you have a few to choose from, I would go with an American ale yeast. US-05/WLP001/Wyeast 1056, Wyeast 1010, something that will highlight the Citra.

 

[watermelon83]

Are you seriously going to try to argue that someone can make an Irish red ale with 7 pounds German pale malt, 3 pounds wheat, a pound of Munich, and Citra? BJCP competition or not, the beer you make with this won't even faintly resemble an Irish red. If you make this recipe expecting an Irish red ale, you are going to be disappointed. No need to be offended that I mentioned this. I entered this thread with the intention of helping, not starting an argument. You gave some less-than-stellar advice and got corrected on it. Nothing personal.

Now, I understand that these are just random ingredients that OP happened upon, but let's call a spa
de a spade. There are a few different ways to go with these ingredients, but an Irish red is not one of them.

You offered advice where exactly?? You entered bashing my advice and provided no alternative.

Nope, I think the only thing that will end this discussion is if we call it something you agree too. Maybe you can spend some of your (obviously endless) internet energy finding the EXACT recipe the OP bought... if not use that energy to stick it.

 

[kh54s10]

Are you seriously going to try to argue that someone can make an Irish red ale with 7 pounds German pale malt, 3 pounds wheat, a pound of Munich, and Citra? BJCP competition or not, the beer you make with this won't even faintly resemble an Irish red. If you make this recipe expecting an Irish red ale, you are going to be disappointed. No need to be offended that I mentioned this. I entered this thread with the intention of helping, not starting an argument. You gave some less-than-stellar advice and got corrected on it. Nothing personal.

Now, I understand that these are just random ingredients that OP happened upon, but let's call a spade a spade. There are a few different ways to go with these ingredients, but an Irish red is not one of them.

Not to mention the fact that he suggests steeping uncrushed grains. They need to be crushed, even for steeping. Without crushing they will add little to nothing to the final product.

I would run it through one of the online recipe builders. You will probably need some more hops either for bittering or for flavor and aroma. I like Citra for flavor or aroma or both and something clean for bittering. I like the idea of a Chico strain for the yeast as mentioned by douglasbarbin.

 

[douglasbarbin]

You offered advice where exactly?? You entered bashing my advice and provided no alternative.

Nope, I think the only thing that will end this discussion is if we call it something you agree too. Maybe you can spend some of your (obviously endless) internet energy finding the EXACT recipe the OP bought... if not use that energy to stick it.

My advice was to make an American wheat beer.

No need to find the exact recipe. A basic understanding of beer styles will suffice. The BJCP guidelines are a good starting point. For recipe formulation,
"Designing Great Beers" by Ray Daniels is a great book and I highly recommend it. Then you will start to understand what makes an Irish red an Irish red (hint: it's not German malt, wheat, and Citra). Calling it an Irish red doesn't make it so, any more than calling a chicken breast "steak" makes it a ribeye.

You are mighty butthurt for being called out on some ridiculous advice. Call it an Irish red if you want, but don't expect it to taste like any other Irish red.

 

[watermelon83]

My advice was to make an American wheat beer.

No need to find the exact recipe. A basic understanding of beer styles will suffice. The BJCP guidelines are a good starting point. For recipe formulation,
"Designing Great Beers" by Ray Daniels is a great book and I highly recommend it. Then you will start to understand what makes an Irish red an Irish red (hint: it's not German malt, wheat, and Citra). Calling it an Irish red doesn't make it so, any more than calling a chicken breast "steak" makes it a ribeye.

You are mighty butthurt for being called out on some ridiculous advice. Call it an Irish red if you want, but don't expect it to taste like any other Irish red.

I have the book, did I make an error ? yup you got me!!! Does a new brewer know the difference, prolly not. Istill can't wait to seethe answer to the OP's questiion.

 

[BigJack]

Ignore all the arguing. Chunk it all in the mash, add the hops at 60 minutes, and call it "random-ass beer."

 

[kh54s10]

I have the book, did I make an error ? yup you got me!!! Does a new brewer know the difference, prolly not. Istill can't wait to seethe answer to the OP's questiion.

The answer has already been given several times. It is a non descript beer that will fit in no particular category. It will make a beer, it will probably be decent. The only suggestion I had was more hops.

Irish Red? Nope
Steeping uncrushed grains - nope.

To use the grains the OP has has been answered. It will be a ??? beer.

 

[watermelon83]

The answer has already been given several times. It is a non descript beer that will fit in no particular category. It will make a beer, it will probably be decent. The only suggestion I had was more hops.

Irish Red? Nope
Steeping uncrushed grains - nope.

To use the grains the OP has has been answered. It will be a ??? beer.

Do people like you go through life assuming everyone is a jack***? The first step in steeping grains is crushing them. I used a rolling pin for my first batch. I assume the OP knows that. I hope it names it "Forum Prick Ale".

 

[Panthro63]

Ignore all the arguing. Chunk it all in the mash, add the hops at 60 minutes, and call it "random-ass beer."

After all of that, I'm simply going to follow your advice, sir. Thanks!

 

[secondbase]

SOUnds like a really good chance to try a red american saison to me.

 

[Psylocide]

Do people like you go through life assuming everyone is a jack***? The first step in steeping grains is crushing them. I used a rolling pin for my first batch. I assume the OP knows that. I hope it names it "Forum Prick Ale".

Strong post content to avatar correlation here.

This might be better, since it's like the 2nd time I've seen you do this is in someone else's thread.

 

[corycorycory09]

I have the book, did I make an error ? yup you got me!!! Does a new brewer know the difference, prolly not. Istill can't wait to seethe answer to the OP's questiion.

Not sure why you are getting so defensive with the guy.

You don't have to have brewed before to know the difference between an American wheat and Irish red ale.

You only have to know what they taste like.

 

[chickypad]

Yeah geez, that got ugly fast for no apparent reason. OP I agree with the yeast choices mentioned in post #10 for a nice American style - pale ale or wheat depending on how noticeable the wheat is at that percentage. Looks like it will be about 6 SRM. Depending on your efficiency you could also turn this into an IPA if you like, at 75% you should be right at or above 1.060. Loading up on about 5-6 more ounces of hops for late additions and dry hopping would get you there. It would make a nice wheat/pale also though if you're expecting a bit lower gravity. Another oz or two of citra or other hop late would be nice in that case.

 

[chickypad]

OP - just noticed you mentioned you're a beginner and no one has asked - are you brewing all grain? What size pot do you have? If your pot is something like 5 gal and you've not got other equipment you may not have room for doing an all grain 5 gal batch, but you could do a partial mash with about half the grains and make up the rest extract (or just do a small all grain batch). If you need help folks can walk you through that.

 

[1977Brewer]

Methinks watermelon saw the Red Wheat and thought, for whatever reason, it would make red beer. It won't. I kow that and I'm a n00b. Sometimes people argue on the internet because they're unhappoy in real life. We need a therapy thread.


It's going to be a wheat beer. You need more hops, I would save the citra for late/flameout, and use a decent bittering hop. The citra will give you a nice citra aroma/flavor at 1 oz, used late. As I am brand new, I can't really suggest a particular bittering hop, I just know that no one uses Citra at 60 because it tend to go "cat pee".

 

[watermelon83]

Strong post content to avatar correlation here.

This might be better, since it's like the 2nd time I've seen you do this is in someone else's thread.

What's that? stop in to offer an opinion and get slammed? yeah prolly

 

[1977Brewer]

What's that? stop in to offer an uninformed, incorrect opinion and get corrected and overreact? yeah prolly

fixed that for you.

 

[douglasbarbin]

If we take nothing else away from this thread, I can at least admit that "Forum Prick Ale" is a pretty good name...I might have to use that one in the future!

 

[Panthro63]

Methinks watermelon saw the Red Wheat and thought, for whatever reason, it would make red beer. It won't. I kow that and I'm a n00b. Sometimes people argue on the internet because they're unhappoy in real life. We need a therapy thread.


It's going to be a wheat beer. You need more hops, I would save the citra for late/flameout, and use a decent bittering hop. The citra will give you a nice citra aroma/flavor at 1 oz, used late. As I am brand new, I can't really suggest a particular bittering hop, I just know that no one uses Citra at 60 because it tend to go "cat pee".

Great advice - thanks!

 

[Panthro63]

OP - just noticed you mentioned you're a beginner and no one has asked - are you brewing all grain? What size pot do you have? If your pot is something like 5 gal and you've not got other equipment you may not have room for doing an all grain 5 gal batch, but you could do a partial mash with about half the grains and make up the rest extract (or just do a small all grain batch). If you need help folks can walk you through that.

Hey there - YEP, all-grain - got myself a 10 gallon pot. Using the ol' 5 gal to help boil up the H20 thru the process.

This will be my second all-grain brew, which is why I was curious and wanted to pose what kinda beer these grains would make - and if I should get some better hops/specific yeast. It sounds like the Citra is a bit too much for a 60. So I'm going to pick up some other hops to go 60 and then use Citra near the end.

Probably brewing this puppy next weekend.
Thanks!

 

[stpug]

I haven't read through the thread at all, but I would say that your ingredients would make a killer Irish Red Ale. Happy brewing!

(did you catch what I did there? )

The "Irish Red Ale" part, that's just poking fun at watermelon - kinda earned that one. But my favorite (OHHHH my favorite) part is the first part - "I haven't read through the thread at all" - I love it when people start their posts like this - it gets me all giddy!!