Dunt1
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How did you guys know some of these beers existed in the first place?
Too much time on my hands
How did you guys know some of these beers existed in the first place?
I don't think you'll ever see a lot of love for Goldackerl because it's so ******* weird. I liked it, and appreciated it for its uniqueness, but I don't think I'd ever buy it again (and I just ordered it at Akkurrat so I got it pretty cheap).1.) Selectie C or Olutravintola Pikkulintu. I've seen one or two Selectie C out in the wild, but never seen an Olutravintola. I was in Helsinki for a quick stop in November, but couldnt get the wife to come to Pikkulintu with me and it was our honeymoon so I didnt push the subject.
2.) Don Quijote, Loerik, and Goldackerl for lambics and SA Millennium for everything else.
3.) Dave was probably one of the worst whales Ive had. It's boozy as ****, even after all this time. I loved Goldackerl, it was one of the most unique Cantillon I've had to date. I dont think it gets near the hype it deserves.
4.) Girardin black label, 3F Oude Geuze, and Hoponius Union
5.) 3F Oude Geuze or Saint Lamnivus
All of the above - big time whales usually trade hands for $, not other beer. So it's a matter of finding them and then getting them as cheap as possible.How did you get started whale hunting? I assume trips to Europe are the answer, but was it more about knowing someone who could get these whales? eBay sales? Quantity for quality trades?
Answer:How did you guys know some of these beers existed in the first place?
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Nicer?
Hahahahahahhahahaha
(Just speaking for myself as one of the "banned" that seemed to start this last exodus along with dontdrinkbeer and GrumpyOldTroll)
I think you answered your own inquiry a bit there. The solid people that got ****** out of that other place were awesome people in spite of that place, so once in a freer environment it was only natural to get better/nicer/more fun, etc. Sort of like how Google or whatever figured out if you let people play ping-pong during breaks they are more productive overall.Look, that wasn't like a total ass kiss. It's a serious question. I'm sure there's some animosity but I frequented that site, found out about the whole thing several months later cause well, I'm not exactly perceptive and it seems as if my disdain for the whole thing is greater than those affected directly.
While not speaking directly to a lot of people (who are now here) I wouldn't know what 90% of this stuff is (Whales, trading in general) and there's an entity profiting from it at and acting like it is correct.
A lot of these guys are the ones who not only acquired the information about whales and all of this and spread it without any hope of gain. What do you do? Just start another site and have a LIF where some ******* from Indiana gets to crush some Dave and 4loko and just move on. That really takes an awesome amount of character.
Then again, I came here realized all of this is possible AND people can have fun while they're at it and I'm enjoying every second of it.
I think you answered your own inquiry a bit there. The solid people that got ****** out of that other place were awesome people in spite of that place, so once in a freer environment it was only natural to get better/nicer/more fun, etc. Sort of like how Google or whatever figured out if you let people play ping-pong during breaks they are more productive overall.
Savvy?
All of the above - big time whales usually trade hands for $, not other beer. So it's a matter of finding them and then getting them as cheap as possible.
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4.) Girardin black label, 3F Oude Geuze, and Hoponius Union
It used to sit around here all the time until they stopped sending it.Been looking for that Black Label, is that easy for you to get or do you have a lot of it?
If i could sell every bottle i own and or trade for whisky id be happy walking away for good.
And not a single Fantome was seen that day.1.) Selectie C or Olutravintola Pikkulintu. I've seen one or two Selectie C out in the wild, but never seen an Olutravintola. I was in Helsinki for a quick stop in November, but couldnt get the wife to come to Pikkulintu with me and it was our honeymoon so I didnt push the subject.
2.) Don Quijote, Loerik, and Goldackerl for lambics and SA Millennium for everything else.
3.) Dave was probably one of the worst whales Ive had. It's boozy as ****, even after all this time. I loved Goldackerl, it was one of the most unique Cantillon I've had to date. I dont think it gets near the hype it deserves.
4.) Girardin black label, 3F Oude Geuze, and Hoponius Union
5.) 3F Oude Geuze or Saint Lamnivus
And not a single Fantome was seen that day.
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It used to sit around here all the time until they stopped sending it.
Whaaaaaat???! Is this new again? Didn't they stop sending to the US a few years ago due to not meeting their demand in Europe?Not true. My local shop got a new shipment of Girardin within the last three weeks.
How would you respond to the following sentence?
'Whale hunting (and the associated activity), is the antithesis of the relaxed, non-event based beer culture that is actually, truly at the heart of a sustainable beer culture'.
I agree that are are many different facets to the 'culture', but the question is, what is sustainable (and 'good') in the long run?I don't buy into the idea of a singular beer culture. The volume of breweries and beer available allows for people to enjoy beer in a number of different ways. Those who hunt whales and those who just want to drift down to their local brewpub a couple times a week (and everything in between) should coexist fine, perhaps only bumping into each other at a festival here and there.
I agree that are are many different facets to the 'culture', but the question is, what is sustainable (and 'good') in the long run?
I think that there is a whole generation of American geeks that don't understand the basics of beer, are wowed by the whale, and as such are likely to get bored and move on as the fad fades for them. In terms of finances, effort and time, perusing such things in perpetuity is unfeasible for many, as work, children, money and life get in the way. As a result, it's entirely possible that the American scene will lose a large cadre of beer drinkers, and the underlying sub-culture will be depleted/damaged. That's to say nothing of the brewers that are neglecting to perfect simple styles, techniques and sustainable production at the expense of the next limited release.All of it. I don't see any specific activity that's going to hurt the craft beer market. Do you believe whale hunting will have a detrimental effect in the long term? How do you see that playing out?
I think that there is a whole generation of American geeks that don't understand the basics of beer, are wowed by the whale, and as such are likely to get bored and move on as the fad fades for them. In terms of finances, effort and time, perusing such things in perpetuity is unfeasible for many, as work, children, money and life get in the way. As a result, it's entirely possible that the American scene will lose a large cadre of beer drinkers, and the underlying sub-culture will be depleted/damaged. That's to say nothing of the brewers that are neglecting to perfect simple styles, techniques and sustainable production at the expense of the next limited release.
I didn't know there was a right and wrong way to be craft beer person. If you let the actions of others affect your enjoyment of the craft beer world (and I should think you don't based on your strong-held beliefs on how a beer should be enjoyed), you're doing it wrong. Why can't you just have some fun with this? I hope beer never becomes what you want it to be; a rigid culture following a fixed set of beliefs and practices, and rules dictating how, when, and where a beer can be enjoyed.I don't, rather I am trying to point out how I think it might have a detrimental effect on your beer scene.