http://www.joann.com:80/joann/catalog/productdetail.jsp?pageName=search&flag=true&PRODID=prd45675 these are great machines. Any Joann flyer will have a 40-50% off coupon in it. Need to rough up the rollers though in order to pull in the grain a machine shop can knurl them or just draw a drill bit across them in lines. The hand crank can be trimmed to accept a drill if you want to go motorized.