to start or not to start, that is the question? :D

[jason1973]

going be doing my first lager next weekend.
here what i came up with looking at other recipes.

2 lb German Pilsner Malt
6 oz flaked corn
1 lbPilsen Light Dry Malt Extract DME

.5 oz Saaz @ 60
.5 oz Saaz @10 min

Wyeast 2001 Pilsner Urquell Lager Yeast

its a two gallon batch, would one pack of wyeast be anough yeast or do i still need a starter? yes very high gravity and its a lager.grain steep will be 55min. and 60 min on my boil.

 

[jason1973]

made a mistake its Czech Saaz hops not Saaz hops

 

[Bowtiebrewery]

So i ran it through Mr. Malty's pitching calculator and if you end up 1.5-1.6 OG you will need 140-167B yeast cells. Given that one smack pack is 100B, you will be a little light, so I would say make a small starter. Why chance it?

You would in all likelihood be fine, but I typically defer to Mr. Malty for all yeast pitching questions.

More important after this is make sure you are ready to pitch at an appropriate temperature, properly aerate the wort, and ferment and control temperature for this Lager.

Cheers

 

[jason1973]

So i ran it through Mr. Malty's pitching calculator and if you end up 1.5-1.6 OG you will need 140-167B yeast cells. Given that one smack pack is 100B, you will be a little light, so I would say make a small starter. Why chance it?

You would in all likelihood be fine, but I typically defer to Mr. Malty for all yeast pitching questions.

More important after this is make sure you are ready to pitch at an appropriate temperature, properly aerate the wort, and ferment and control temperature for this Lager.

Cheers

thx for response , I'm still new so still learning all the tools at hand.

 

[Bowtiebrewery]

No problem... Happy to help.. Definitely check out www.Mrmalty.com and also just for good reading search for John Palmers How to Brew... Its a wealth of information.

 

[ABVIBUSRM]

going be doing my first lager next weekend.
here what i came up with looking at other recipes.

2 lb German Pilsner Malt
6 oz flaked corn
1 lbPilsen Light Dry Malt Extract DME

.5 oz Saaz @ 60
.5 oz Saaz @10 min

Wyeast 2001 Pilsner Urquell Lager Yeast

its a two gallon batch, would one pack of wyeast be anough yeast or do i still need a starter? yes very high gravity and its a lager.grain steep will be 55min. and 60 min on my boil.

make a starter its a lager

 

[Gentlemans_Ale]

Starter for sure

 

[jason1973]

No problem... Happy to help.. Definitely check out www.Mrmalty.com and also just for good reading search for John Palmers How to Brew... Its a wealth of information.

just ran numbers mr malty actualy sais no starter, but i will do starter doing all this extra work to make a pilsner(lager) might as well do extra step to make perfect. mr malty sais .70 pack, i think you probaly calculated as 5gallon batch when only two gallon batch. but as said will do starter anyways to get perfect.
and i assume more yeast wont hurt but actualy help?

 

[jason1973]

BREWERSFRIEND estimate on my recipe.

Added Byyro139
Methodartial Mash
Style:Other Smoked Beer
Boil Time:60 min
Batch Size: 2 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 2.1 gallons
Boil Gravity:1.050 (recipe based estimate)
Efficiency: 70% (brew house)





Original Gravity:
1.053

Final Gravity:
1.014

ABV (standard):
5.13%

IBU (tinseth):
22.59

SRM (morey):
2.94

 

[Natdavis777]

100B cells if you have a new smack pack. If its a month old or so, you are starting with less. I'd still make a starter just to be safe.