American Pale Ale Three Floyds Zombie Dust Clone

[Psylocide]

Well for starters to get a more clear and smooth brew,

I won't get into it too much here, but you can search and find thousands of threads of transferring to secondary vs. dry hopping in primary.

I'm sure you read some old literature that told you this is the case, but it's not in my (and many other's) experience.

but mainly in this case specifically, I am using a plastic bucket for the primary and if I am going to open it to introduce hops there will be extra oxygen in that head space, so transferring to a glass carboy will eliminate that. I understand that I will be introducing oxygen as I siphon it but if I do it right it will be less than the one that would stay in the plastic bucket.

Again, not really an issue. We're talking a short period of time being exposed to air when you open it to drop the hops in. I dry hop in a 7.5 gal carboy (primary) for 5.5 gallons, and it works just fine, every time.

I cold crash in the keg and fine with gelatin... that plus decent racking ability and you'll produce just as clear and "smooth" beer (though I've never heard of transferring to secondary as producing "smoother beer" whatever that may mean? Mouthfeel? Taste?)

Either way, read up on it, do what suits you... it's your brew.

 

[bodega95]

I won't get into it too much here, but you can search and find thousands of threads of transferring to secondary vs. dry hopping in primary.

I'm sure you read some old literature that told you this is the case, but it's not in my (and many other's) experience.



Again, not really an issue. We're talking a short period of time being exposed to air when you open it to drop the hops in. I dry hop in a 7.5 gal carboy (primary) for 5.5 gallons, and it works just fine, every time.

I cold crash in the keg and fine with gelatin... that plus decent racking ability and you'll produce just as clear and "smooth" beer (though I've never heard of transferring to secondary as producing "smoother beer" whatever that may mean? Mouthfeel? Taste?)

Either way, read up on it, do what suits you... it's your brew.

Cheers men
What I meant by smoother is on regards of taste, I have read that yeast if it sits for a long period of time can munch on themselves and create some off flavours, maybe this is not the case. I will definitely read more on this. Great advice.
In any case fermenting has started and the smell that comes out is superb!
Looking forward to this one

 

[Psylocide]

Cheers men
What I meant by smoother is on regards of taste, I have read that yeast if it sits for a long period of time can munch on themselves and create some off flavours, maybe this is not the case. I will definitely read more on this. Great advice.
In any case fermenting has started and the smell that comes out is superb!
Looking forward to this one

Yeah, long periods of time being a few to several months, depending on the beer. You'll be all good.

The amount of oxygen you introduce when adding dry hops to primary will most likely be much more minimal than what would be introduced siphoning to another vessel.

 

[seehuusen]

brewed this up today, only ended up with a 1.059 wort, but higher volume... low boil off, I'll need to adjust my calculations/ get better at judging a good rolling boil...

Anyway, it's in the fermenter with two packets of S04, can't wait to give this one a go in a few weeks time
Thanks to the OP for the recipe :rockin:

 

[madscientistbrewNq]

Same here seehuusen... I will be installing a sight glass on my hlt and boil kettle just so I can better manage my volumes. Brewing on a new system was just another excuse/reason for me.

 

[Steve3730]

I've done this extract 3 times, Next week I plan on doing it again but would like to try partial mash. Can I sub out some of the DME and add pale 2 row?

 

[Purdue22]

Absolutely. Look for a conversion factor online and sub accordingly.

 

[jwross007]

bottled mine today. Tasted pretty good flat and warm, can't wait till it's cold and carbonated

 

[Paul_Aris]

I love this beer. I will be brewing a 10 gallon batch this weekend. Second time I've done this recipe.

 

[BL41R]

Me and my uncle each brewed a 5 gallon batch together. LHBS only had enough citra for one. We subbed galaxy for the citra for his batch. We are calling it zombie stardust.


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Brewing this on Saturday, can't wait

ZOMBIE STARDUST

 

[Steve3730]

Just brewed this for the 4th time. This time was my first partial mash. 5.5lbs of 2 row plus the specialty grains and about 3lbs of DME. OG was a little high at 1.073. Fermentation is rocking.

After 10 day 3 oz dryhop going to toss another 1oz in the keg

 

[ickmund]

Gonna see about brewing this in a couple of weeks. Got some Wyeast 1332 Northwest Ale I'm dying to test, heard it plays real nice with Citra.

Will probably throw in a hefty whirlpool as well.

 

[milldoggy]

Did this with half MO, half pale for my base and use BRY 97. Fantastic. Also used clarity ferm, trying to reduce my gluten intake

 

[maturemutation]

So i brewed this about 3 weeks ago and left it in primary for 9 days then in secondary with the hops for another 7 days. Then added gelatin and moved to a keg to be cleared and carbonated.

This beer is fantastic! I will be making it countless more times in the future! I made the 5 gallon batch but in the future I will definitely do the 6 gallon size since my keg looked to be almost a 1/2 to 1 gallon low.

Here is a quick shot of it after two days of co2.
https://imgur.com/EkfrQIB

 

[jwross007]

Drank a bottle of my first attempt last night. Very tasty, but needs more time (only 1.5 weeks in the bottle). Question, the beer was clearer when I bottled it that it was drinking it last time. Will more time help?

 

[m00ps]

Drank a bottle of my first attempt last night. Very tasty, but needs more time (only 1.5 weeks in the bottle). Question, the beer was clearer when I bottled it that it was drinking it last time. Will more time help?

Thats understandable since you bottle primed it, so that generated a tiny fermentation in the bottle and made more yeast. It'll take a number of weeks to fully clear, and youll need to leave the yeast sediment at the bottom when pouring. Flavorwise, they should be ready sooner

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I did another variation of this a few weeks ago. Kept the same grain bill, fermented 100% with Brett Brux Trois, then used the following for hops:
20min: .75oz Citra, .75oz Mosaic
10min: .75oz Citra, .75oz Mosaic
5min: 1oz Citra, 1oz Mosaic
0min: 1.5oz Citra, 1.5oz Mosaic
Dry Hop #1: 1.5oz Citra, 1.5oz Mosaic
Dry Hop #2: 1oz Citra, 1oz Mosaic

I'm on the 2nd dry hop right now. Taste and aroma are great.

 

[Psylocide]

I had a small gripe with this recipe, it only lasted like, 2 weeks in the keg... if that.

Not sure why it was gone so fast, but I'd warn people about that issue going into it.

 

[snakebyte]

How many liters of Yeast Starter are you guys using for this recipe? Using the 5g extract batch size, Mr Malty is saying 3.5L. This will be my first starter, but I've yet to see anyone talking about making a 3.5L starter...

I'll be doing a simple starter, I don't have a stir plate.

I'm using 1968.

Recommendations?

 

[barrooze]

How many liters of Yeast Starter are you guys using for this recipe? Using the 5g extract batch size, Mr Malty is saying 3.5L. This will be my first starter, but I've yet to see anyone talking about making a 3.5L starter...

I'll be doing a simple starter, I don't have a stir plate.

I'm using 1968.

Recommendations?

3.5L sounds about right for a simple starter and 1 vial. My recommendation: make a stirplate! They can easily be made with stuff from old computers and cell phone chargers. Check out this thread: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=228400. TONS of ideas in there. Best of luck!

 

[jjbanks]

How many liters of Yeast Starter are you guys using for this recipe? Using the 5g extract batch size, Mr Malty is saying 3.5L. This will be my first starter, but I've yet to see anyone talking about making a 3.5L starter...

I'll be doing a simple starter, I don't have a stir plate.

I'm using 1968.

Recommendations?

Do a 2 stage starter. 3.5 L is a lot of liquid and not recommended. If you do 2 stage and decant after the first you should be good around a liter or so.

 

[Steve3730]

Just dropped the dry hops in my 4th batch (first partial mash) og was 1.073, 1.023 right now so a little higher than target but very close.

 

[rivetcatcher]

Hey Guys,

Been on the forum for quite a while but havent posted. Im based over in Thailand and tried Zombie Dust in a bar in Bangkok.... it was unbelievably good so now I'd like to make it myself. We have malts etc available but not exactly as per above.

I have tried to adapt the recipe as best as possible using locally available malts:

Do you think this will turn out well?

Please see below:

11.75lb 2 row Pilsner
1.63lb Munich malt
8oz Caramunich II
8oz Carapils


The hops and yeast remain the same as the original recipe. Do any of you guys have any comments on this? Do you think this will turn out a decent brew?

Many thanks in advance

Rivet

 

[cdubya]

Brewed this last weekend and was able to grab 2 cases of ZD from the brewery yesterday...can't wait to do a side by side taste test!

 

[milldoggy]

Hey Guys,

Been on the forum for quite a while but havent posted. Im based over in Thailand and tried Zombie Dust in a bar in Bangkok.... it was unbelievably good so now I'd like to make it myself. We have malts etc available but not exactly as per above.

I have tried to adapt the recipe as best as possible using locally available malts:

Do you think this will turn out well?

Please see below:

11.75lb 2 row Pilsner
1.63lb Munich malt
8oz Caramunich II
8oz Carapils


The hops and yeast remain the same as the original recipe. Do any of you guys have any comments on this? Do you think this will turn out a decent brew?

Many thanks in advance

Rivet

Maybe another half pound of caramunich if you do not have access to meladion. Can you get biscuit malt? Do you have any Marris Otter?

 

[rivetcatcher]

Maybe another half pound of caramunich if you do not have access to meladion. Can you get biscuit malt? Do you have any Marris Otter?

Maris Otter is only available sometimes, at the moment there is none. Im worried about the colour, if I add in another 0.5lb of Cara munich I will get an SRM of 12.2 which is too dark. The taste however is priority for me but I would like to get as close as possible to the original. In an ideal world I would like to make the colour even lighter, at the moment the SRM is 10.

Do you think adding an extra 0.5lb of Caramunich will benefit the brew tastewise?

 

[chainlife]

I did another variation of this a few weeks ago. Kept the same grain bill, fermented 100% with Brett Brux Trois, then used the following for hops:

20min: .75oz Citra, .75oz Mosaic

10min: .75oz Citra, .75oz Mosaic

5min: 1oz Citra, 1oz Mosaic

0min: 1.5oz Citra, 1.5oz Mosaic

Dry Hop #1: 1.5oz Citra, 1.5oz Mosaic

Dry Hop #2: 1oz Citra, 1oz Mosaic



I'm on the 2nd dry hop right now. Taste and aroma are great.

Skeezer, what is your efficiency on your setup? Also, which variant that you have tried is your favorite? Or is the original the best? Also, saw ur into metal, hell yeah\m/ what bands do u listen to??

 

[Steve3730]

My first PM version is cold crashing. Og was 1.073 Fg 1.020. I don't know much about efficiency and things of that sort. But does it sound like my process was good?

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Skeezer, what is your efficiency on your setup? Also, which variant that you have tried is your favorite? Or is the original the best? Also, saw ur into metal, hell yeah\m/ what bands do u listen to??

I used to get 72-75%, but usually get in the low-mid 80s for a 5-7g batch or normal gravity beer these days. This one is still on gas carbing now and has potential to up there. The one I did with conan was pretty good. I have brewed the regular the most though.

I listen to all kinds of metal, old school, death, metalcore, etc. Machine Head, Slayer, Suicide Silence, Strapping Young Lad, Opeth, Pantera, Gojira, Job for a Cowboy, Black Sabbath, Necrophagist, CoC, Killswitch Engage, Between the Buried and Me, etc. Depends on the mood I guess :rockin:

 

[skeezerpleezer]

My first PM version is cold crashing. Og was 1.073 Fg 1.020. I don't know much about efficiency and things of that sort. But does it sound like my process was good?

That's around 73% attenuation, so on the upper end for yeasts like 1968 or S-04, especially if using extract. You can get better attenuation, but would need to do something like ferment lower, add sugar, pitch a healthy starter, pure oxygen, etc.