American Pale Ale Three Floyds Zombie Dust Clone

[BrewerBaj]

Bottled mine yesterday. I was upset that I ended up only yielding 4 gallons in the end because this smells and tastes amazing. Have a 2nd batch fermenting away already and a 3rd to come.

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[mtnagel]

I'm confused BrewerBaj, do you like this beer?

 

[BrewerBaj]

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[jimbohlia]

I am thinking about brewing this up by while looking for ingredients I could only find Melanoiden and not Melanoidin as spelled out in the recipe. Is this the same malt with a different spelling?

 

[donjonson]

I just brewed this beer and I am worried.... let me explain:

primary 1 mo
no secondary

After the 1 mo primary I racked to keg and spent 3 weeks simultaneously cold crashing, dry hopping 4 oz, and carbing.

as it was carbing I was taking samples and I had a few concerns.

1) it is WAY cloudy! I believe I have gotten through all the yeast settlement so the cloudiness is unexplained.
2) seems to have a very high surface tension. example: before it was fully carbed I would pour into glass and little droplets of beer would glide around on the surface for a few seconds before absorbing into the beer this is weird. and concerns me a bit.
3) I used those squished marbles to weigh down the hop bag when dry hopping. the problem is some of the marbles had some sort of coating. I am hoping that none of that absorbed into the beer. I am concerned that it is perhaps not safe to drink even though it tastes and smells great.

any ideas?

do you think the clouyness is from the marbles or some natural phenomenon related to yeast or dryhopping?

 

[joyceman]

Nothing definitive, but mine is still pretty cloudy after 1 month in the fermenter and 3 weeks in bottles. Still pretty harsh too. Im going to cold condition for a couple of weeks and hope it clears and mellows.

 

[Sippin37]

I am thinking about brewing this up by while looking for ingredients I could only find Melanoiden and not Melanoidin as spelled out in the recipe. Is this the same malt with a different spelling?

Same thing, wouldn't worry about it.

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[Sippin37]

I just brewed this beer and I am worried.... let me explain:

primary 1 mo
no secondary

After the 1 mo primary I racked to keg and spent 3 weeks simultaneously cold crashing, dry hopping 4 oz, and carbing.

as it was carbing I was taking samples and I had a few concerns.

1) it is WAY cloudy! I believe I have gotten through all the yeast settlement so the cloudiness is unexplained.
2) seems to have a very high surface tension. example: before it was fully carbed I would pour into glass and little droplets of beer would glide around on the surface for a few seconds before absorbing into the beer this is weird. and concerns me a bit.
3) I used those squished marbles to weigh down the hop bag when dry hopping. the problem is some of the marbles had some sort of coating. I am hoping that none of that absorbed into the beer. I am concerned that it is perhaps not safe to drink even though it tastes and smells great.

any ideas?

do you think the clouyness is from the marbles or some natural phenomenon related to yeast or dryhopping?

The cloudiness is from dry hopping. Any time you were putting in or taking out more hops you were just stirring it up more. Let it sit for a week or two without moving or taking things in and out and it will clear up. First few pints will be cloudy then you'll be fine. I always feel like the first few pints have the most hop flavor and it makes sense because there are probably the most hop oils in them.

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[scrub0bk]

So i don't have the capability to mash the munich 10L, can i use a munich DME as a substitute? if so how much? if that won't work should i use another steeping grain?

thanks all

 

[beerman2013]

Brewed this yesterday. The citra bomb aroma coming from fermentation is crazy strong. I might get banned from future brews if the wife gets a whiff of that.

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[LoneTreeFarms]

So i don't have the capability to mash the munich 10L, can i use a munich DME as a substitute? if so how much? if that won't work should i use another steeping grain?

thanks all

i read somewhere that you can use a rolling pin to lightly crush the grains.

 

[fosaisu]

So i don't have the capability to mash the munich 10L, can i use a munich DME as a substitute? if so how much? if that won't work should i use another steeping grain?

thanks all

If you can steep you can do a partial mash -- it's really the same thing just with less water and at slightly lower temps!

• Instead of filling your brewpot and steeping in that, just use less water (people often recommend 1.25 qts per pound of grain)
• heat to the appropriate temp (you'll want to go a bit higher than your desired mash temp because dropping room-temp grains in will chill it down a bit, this calculator will give you a target temp to start at: http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml)
• put your grain bag in (you'll want a large, loosely packed bag so that most/all grain is under the relatively low water line, many people use a cheap large paint strainer from Home Depot), stir the grain well to ensure it's all exposed to the water, cover the pot with a towel/blanket and let it sit for ~ 45 mins
• "sparge" by pouring some slightly warmer water (lots of theories, I've been using 160 F) over the grain bag to rinse remaining sugars off of the grains.
• fill your brewpot and carry on with your brew day.

 

[LoneTreeFarms]

Ha I completely misread that. I thought he was having trouble with the crush

 

[scrub0bk]

If you can steep you can do a partial mash -- it's really the same thing just with less water and at slightly lower temps!

• Instead of filling your brewpot and steeping in that, just use less water (people often recommend 1.25 qts per pound of grain)
• heat to the appropriate temp (you'll want to go a bit higher than your desired mash temp because dropping room-temp grains in will chill it down a bit, this calculator will give you a target temp to start at: http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml)
• put your grain bag in (you'll want a large, loosely packed bag so that most/all grain is under the relatively low water line, many people use a cheap large paint strainer from Home Depot), stir the grain well to ensure it's all exposed to the water, cover the pot with a towel/blanket and let it sit for ~ 45 mins
• "sparge" by pouring some slightly warmer water (lots of theories, I've been using 160 F) over the grain bag to rinse remaining sugars off of the grains.
• fill your brewpot and carry on with your brew day.

Awesome thank you for this. Should I just steep the rest if the grains after that or should I do this for all of the specialty grains in this batch?

 

[bigmike99]

Finally got all the ingredients for this. Now to straighten out the garage enough to brew this, the Wookey clone recipe and an all citra crowd pleaser.

 

[fosaisu]

Awesome thank you for this. Should I just steep the rest if the grains after that or should I do this for all of the specialty grains in this batch?

Just mash all of the specialty grains together, there's no need to do a separate steep for the steepable grains.

I'm a relatively recent convert to partial mashing myself -- I was a little intimidated, and it took me a while to work through all of the terminology and realize that it's pretty much the same thing as steeping, just with a measured quantity of water and at a lower temp.

Good luck and enjoy! This was my first PM beer and I just brewed it again this week. A tasty one!

 

[danorocks17]

I've been meaning to brew this recipe for a while but haven't had the change. Yesterday I went to my LHBS with a buddy because he was brewing and they had this exact recipe already milled up. Apparently they made a double batch by accident and were selling the extra one for 20% off. I took that as a sign, so I"ll be doing this hopefully soon.

 

[YukonLT]

Just drank my first one from my attempt at this recipe. WOW! Definitely will be in the rotation as a beer I'm keeping in the fridge! :rockin:

 

[BeerPower]

Beerpower - where did you get that glass?

Hi Jammin. My apologies for the huge delay replying. That glass is an antique. It's a hand me down from my dad's basement bar. I think he's had the set since the mid 70's. I'll see if he remembers any details next time I see him, but in the meantime I'd suggest checking some antique malls.

 

[JonGrafto]

Hi Jammin. My apologies for the huge delay replying. That glass is an antique. It's a hand me down from my dad's basement bar. I think he's had the set since the mid 70's. I'll see if he remembers any details next time I see him, but in the meantime I'd suggest checking some antique malls.

These are vintage Goblets from the 60's/70's made by the Federal Glass Company...

Here you go:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/177908718/vintage-retro-beer-glasses-water-goblets?ref=related-0


Same glass, just in a "smoke" color. Check this link: http://www.etsy.com/listing/91266016/vintage-glassware-goblet-glasses-smoke

 

[jammin]

Jongrafto, are you a wizard?

 

[JonGrafto]

Jongrafto, are you a wizard?

Ha ha. Nope. Why do you ask?


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[Weezy]

These are vintage Goblets from the 60's/70's made by the Federal Glass Company...

Here you go:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/177908718/vintage-retro-beer-glasses-water-goblets?ref=related-0


Same glass, just in a "smoke" color. Check this link: http://www.etsy.com/listing/91266016/vintage-glassware-goblet-glasses-smoke

I literally just bought 4 of these (umsmoked) from the local Goodwill. $0.99/ea+tax.

Edit: hey, they had 2-4 more. I'd be willing to trade for some ZD homebrew.

 

[deeps500]

Just brewed the extract version this last Tuesday. I'm hoping I did't screw it up by steeping my grains in 6 gallons of water instead of a small amount. It smells awesome and is still bubbling away!

 

[ClemTiger0408]

Brewed this today. I've been doing BIAB and this is my 5th all-grain batch. Each time I've hit very low efficiencies, usually around 65%.

Today, I made sure the LHBS double milled the grain and I mashed for 90 minutes.

My best brew day ever! I hit 72% pre-boil efficiency. I boiled a little too hard and ended up at 5.75gal an 1.063 OG.

I am stoked that it looks like I've gotten a hold of BIAB!

 

[Talonracer67]

Just brewed this, used the 6 gallon AG. First time with my ghetto fly sparge hit 1.072OG. Those citra hops smell fantastic. Used US-05 I think its slightly cleaner than 04 , with my IPA's I want a clean yeast. Even my local LHBS agreed. Can't wait!!

 

[phallpdx]

Brewed this yesterday using my ghetto BIAB with batch sparge on my stove - used the oven trick to maintain mash temp - worked great! I made a 3 gallon batch (using BIAB for test batches now, when I don't have time to make it over to the brother's to brew on our real setup). OG was 1.067 - so I had pretty good efficiency. Ended up with exactly 3 gallons in the fermenter despite using all whole cones. Pitched some 1968 and she is already bubbling away in the bathroom. Looking forward to this beer. I love citra and I recall liking the original a great deal. If I can I will post pics of how it turns out!

 

[TonyG]

I brewed this AG biab this past sunday, and it is happily fermenting away. My fermentation fridge sure does smell good...

 

[Talonracer67]

I agree TonyG my basement smells awesome with this fermenting

 

[beerman2013]

Racking the ZD to secondary to finish some clean up. The preliminary taste was amazing. Looking forward to the final product.

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