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Actually just had this conversation with my superior (I work on a help desk and this guy has worked here for at least a decade)

Me: I swear J is helpless. He just called up asking how to find PST files. Isn’t that basic HD knowledge? Shouldn’t he have helped people with that a time or two or at least enough to remember how to find files?
Him: You guys continue to send him to support thing you know that he wont do correctly or will call back and make us look bad on them. Why don't you only send him to do hardware installs? Monitor fixes etc.
make him do ALL the CD burns and PW changes
Me: We shouldn’t have to filter out which calls he goes on. He should be competent enough to handle 75% of the calls we get (and that is being generous) instead of just being a warm body that does tasks that even an intern would be capable of doing without training.
Him: and he is not so............................................
Me: So, why the heck is he still here? there have been several HD people who have been removed from here for less.. Sorry I am complaining, its just frustrating that someone can actually be so much of a drain on productivity and not be management by now
Him: he is a GS-__
they were not
Me: Perception = reality I know. but when customers call up asking to speak with anyone but someone in particular you know there is a problem. Not to mention hearing "I spoke with J earlier and he couldnt fix it" (with no troubleshooting done or things are worse because he blundered around on it. No documentation either)
 
I think all engineers need to work a good long while in a shop before touching a computer

Right on man. I'm not even in the field I dreamed and studied for years to be in, it just happened and I fit in right. I've enough experience in so many other jobs working with such different people, that though I sit in the office with the suits... I feel I belong in the shop with the people doing the dirty work. The end of this year I'll have the "experience" that most jobs require, if I'm still just a jockey to them by then they will have a massive hole in their business to fill when I leave for my dream job.
 
This is the young engineer in the office next to me. Cocky as HELL, fresh out of school that his parents paid for and drives the car his dad bought him for graduation. Get this... overheard him saying "my machine shop" and he orders people around instead of asking them. Nobody likes him, and if the shop heard him say they worked under him? A slow death.

I asked him a 'yes or no' question related to a drawing he wanted me to do, since he was too busy watching youtube videos about some computer game, and he sighed before coming to my office. He then proceeded to explain to me how to draw a hex nut. I slid my chair back and let him stand there and draw the hex for me while I drank my coffee. It was nice to have someone draw my millionth hex for me, it was becoming tiresome.

It is nice. I had someone explain to me how I should do something today and I just couldn't understand for the life of me what he was explaining and needed a visual representation. Very good day at work learning what he was teaching me, I would've never been able to do the job I was in charge of without him!
 
Put your fist in this bucket of water.
Now take it out.
Is there a hole in the water?
In theory, I understand the point you're trying to make.


But in practice, and coming from a similar work background to theCADJockey, a good draftsman is hard to find. A good draftsman that has a working knowledge of the operations (drawing standards, work flows, etc.) of your company is next to impossible to find on two weeks notice. My direct supervisor formerly worked in a factory setting; his theory was it takes three years for an employee to truly learn the ins and outs of your company and his/her job. Even a good, experienced draftsman coming from another company is going to take 6 months to truly learn the 'standard drawings', parts number system, etc.

I don't mean to sound self-important, but I know exactly what theCADjockey is saying. If I handed in my two weeks notice tomorrow, my boss would have a heart attack, because me walking out the door would cripple our department - and our plan sets take MONTHS to develop (Civil engineering field). You take an employee that you rely on to bang out multiple drawings every day, and him/her walking out the door on short notice can be devastating.
 
Young engineer here, 25, can't stand engineers like this. First internship I had was at a small automation shop. The owner started me out being the machine shops beeotch. Learned more than I ever could. When I messed up the shop guys would belittle me till I wanted to die. Quick way to only make a mistake once and always ask. Started designing 10% of the time while having to build everything I designed while still catching flack for everything, slowly gaining the respect of the older shop guys.
Second internship there was 50/50 shop and design. Still caught a lot of crap but started getting really close to everyone there.
Graduated college and they took me on full time. It was my dream job perfect balance of desk and shop time. Two years in the one owner steals all the money from the other.

I think all engineers need to work a good long while in a shop before touching a computer


That is the absolute best thing I have ever read! Ever! It's so good to hear that you got to learn how what you design affects others down the line. I'm an operator in a chemical plant. My shift manages to catch every new engineer that comes through the door. They put them on shift for 8-12 months, they do nothing, then they go back to their normal work. It would be nice if they actually let them run the job instead of just playing supervisor.
 
My desk is across the hall from the only bathroom in the building. I have the privilege of hearing every single sound to come out of there. It annoys me most of the time but sometimes it can be hilarious. The best is when someone walks in at exactly the right time and the door is open for a huge fart that echoes through the entire building
 
My desk is across the hall from the only bathroom in the building. I have the privilege of hearing every single sound to come out of there. It annoys me most of the time but sometimes it can be hilarious. The best is when someone walks in at exactly the right time and the door is open for a huge fart that echoes through the entire building


I know exactly what your talking about. It's pretty bad I can tell exactly who is in there by what time it is or the noises .
 
Another b1tch who has the same role as me is constantly behind and every meeting we have she steers the conversation to how busy she is and she doesn't have time to get her work done, change how she does her job, and certainly not enough time to take on an ounce more of work.

She was in the office for a total of 3 hours yesterday and showed up an hour late today. I can already tell she will be bailing early and will not be taking any work home with her. We are salaried and have the ability to take our work home with us.

She has not put in a 40 hour week since the middle of November.

I get asked to help and I swear I'll burn this place to the ground.

I wish I could have a beer at lunch.
 
Another b1tch who has the same role as me is constantly behind and every meeting we have she steers the conversation to how busy she is and she doesn't have time to get her work done, change how she does her job, and certainly not enough time to take on an ounce more of work.

She was in the office for a total of 3 hours yesterday and showed up an hour late today. I can already tell she will be bailing early and will not be taking any work home with her. We are salaried and have the ability to take our work home with us.

She has not put in a 40 hour week since the middle of November.

I get asked to help and I swear I'll burn this place to the ground.

I wish I could have a beer at lunch.


What's stopping you?
 
Being in charge of the company vehicles invariably means that I'll be asked, upon occasion, if an employee can use one for a personal reason. If they're cleared to drive, it's usually not a problem. I have the list,I know who's on it, the people on it know they're on it. I just got asked by a guy who I know for a fact has 2 DUI's and a suspended licence if he can use the van to move this weekend. Told him it's a no go. He called me an a**hole.

Happy freaking Friday dude.
 
I am almost universally loved around here. My friends outnumber my enemies ten to one. I don't have to throat punch him, it'll work itself out.
 
Being in charge of the company vehicles invariably means that I'll be asked, upon occasion, if an employee can use one for a personal reason. If they're cleared to drive, it's usually not a problem. I have the list,I know who's on it, the people on it know they're on it. I just got asked by a guy who I know for a fact has 2 DUI's and a suspended licence if he can use the van to move this weekend. Told him it's a no go. He called me an a**hole.

Happy freaking Friday dude.

LOL...Love it.
Brad, the guy in my office that pisses on the toilet seat and then doesn't clean it up because of the flu (reference a few pages back) has a few DUIs.....borrowed a company truck to move an appliance last year. First he wrecked it into a telephone pole, but it was drive-able, so he brought it back, but when he got back the gate to the parking lot was locked, and his car was up in the parking lot with gate keys in it. Now, its pretty easy to walk around the gate, but it is about a 1/4 mile walk up to the lot, so instead of doing that, he decided to take the 2 wheel drive truck off road, around the gate, and through a wet weather drainage ditch. Not only did he get it hopelessly stuck in the mud, but he made a massive mess of the field around the ditch, and threw mud all over the truck in what appeared to be about an hour long attempt at spinning the rear tires.

Probably the best part of the story is that he just left it there. Walked up and got in his car, drove down, unlocked the gate, went home and never called anyone. That was a Saturday night. My boss came in Sunday to do some work, pulled in, the gate is wide open, the work truck has a bashed in passenger door, and is stuck in the mud out in the field.

Monday morning, Brad came to work like nothing had happened, and didn't even say anything until approached about it. Then he just said, oh yeah sorry about that, meant to call you on your cell Sunday morning.

I assume he was hammered drunk.
 
LOL...Love it.
Brad, the guy in my office that pisses on the toilet seat and then doesn't clean it up because of the flu (reference a few pages back) has a few DUIs.....borrowed a company truck to move an appliance last year. First he wrecked it into a telephone pole, but it was drive-able, so he brought it back, but when he got back the gate to the parking lot was locked, and his car was up in the parking lot with gate keys in it. Now, its pretty easy to walk around the gate, but it is about a 1/4 mile walk up to the lot, so instead of doing that, he decided to take the 2 wheel drive truck off road, around the gate, and through a wet weather drainage ditch. Not only did he get it hopelessly stuck in the mud, but he made a massive mess of the field around the ditch, and threw mud all over the truck in what appeared to be about an hour long attempt at spinning the rear tires.

Probably the best part of the story is that he just left it there. Walked up and got in his car, drove down, unlocked the gate, went home and never called anyone. That was a Saturday night. My boss came in Sunday to do some work, pulled in, the gate is wide open, the work truck has a bashed in passenger door, and is stuck in the mud out in the field.

Monday morning, Brad came to work like nothing had happened, and didn't even say anything until approached about it. Then he just said, oh yeah sorry about that, meant to call you on your cell Sunday morning.

I assume he was hammered drunk.

Just got to chat with his supervisor because he went out on the floor and railed about how unfair I am and I let everyone get away with all kinds of stuff...that I don't. I don't have eyes everywhere. He's in HR getting written up for discourteous conduct.

Whoops.
 
My coworker has done nothing all day but surf CNN and bark out headlines.

I am a program admin, as is he. We have our work come from field staff, so things can slow down.
I have spent my time (when not on this sight lol) revamping material for our website, revising and updating our training material and publication material.
He just sits there yawning loudly.
And management does not want to spend the time or effort to go through the process of removing him!
:drunk:
 
There are four people in my office right now; not one of them is talking to me. One came in and asked for a drawing, another came in to ask that guy about his kids. Then two passerby's decided they wanted in on it.

Beat it nerds.
 
There are four people in my office right now; not one of them is talking to me. One came in and asked for a drawing, another came in to ask that guy about his kids. Then two passerby's decided they wanted in on it.

Beat it nerds.

My office can become quite the hangout. I usually make something up to go do.
 
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