The San Diego area thread

[benbikes4beer]

I do enjoy visiting Groundswell on occasion. My only complaint is the consistency, or lack thereof. I'll have some of the various IPAs and truly wonder why more people don't talk about them. Another visit I'll go through a different set of IPAs and they're all just off tasting to me.

I posted this last year but it fell on deaf ears..... I was greatly surprised at the quality of beers I tried when I stopped in. I still go to Benchmark far more often though.

Chris has only been on for a couple months. and I had literally not tried a drop of their beer before after hearing enough "off" reviews. I would say consistency shouldn't be an issue after 5-6 different beers across vastly different styles were all very good, at least for my palate. Although, the mind can tell you how things taste when you're stoked for friends.


Re: the whole Alpine/GF thing. I'm pretty done. Both sides have to own up to some of the fuckups but at the end of the day, one side is still coming off as more malicious than the other. Even if that isn't their intent, perception is everything. They could have avoided a lot of that simply by keeping Pat looped in...even if they didn't pay him much. Pat is still passionate about the thing he created even if he doesn't own it. You'd think WCIPA would want to harness that for their own good? I still thing this was a way to weasel out of a lot of bad debt.

Craft beer shouldn't involve gross topics like this.

 

[jwacky]

Chris has only been on for a couple months. and I had literally not tried a drop of their beer before after hearing enough "off" reviews. I would say consistency shouldn't be an issue after 5-6 different beers across vastly different styles were all very good, at least for my palate. Although, the mind can tell you how things taste when you're stoked for friends.

Nice, I'll have to pop back in. Definitely been more than a few months since I've been there.

 

[Abigigail]

Can those be purchased online somehow or in person only?

Raffle tickets are in person only. However, he has a “go fund me” you can donate to (in the link above).

 

[rcubed1]

Looks like I'm listening to the World Beer Cup results on my way home from work today.

 

[chemman141]

Looks like I'm listening to the World Beer Cup results on my way home from work today.

Link?

 

[richiesd]

Link?

(Link to media)

 

[rcubed1]

Local results from last night: https://westcoastersd.com/2018/05/03/world-beer-cup-2018-seven-awards-for-san-diego/

Really stoked for Rouleur to get a medal since that's got to be the biggest award they have got so far.

Looks like Beachwood is just cleaning up medals this season between LAIBF, SDIBF, and WBC.

 

[Tyrsis]

Local results from last night: https://westcoastersd.com/2018/05/03/world-beer-cup-2018-seven-awards-for-san-diego/

Really stoked for Rouleur to get a medal since that's got to be the biggest award they have got so far.

Looks like Beachwood is just cleaning up medals this season between LAIBF, SDIBF, and WBC.

Yeah Firestone and Beachwood were cleaning up.

 

[riko1]

Beachwood has become my go-to for IPAs this year. I've been buying one or more of their four-packs almost every week.

 

[arren]

Bought some DDH Orderville and Quickly Open in Portland last night. I don't think I can do these four-packs anymore - for the same price of these I could have gotten 4 sixers of Ponto.

But DDH Orderville was good - though I haven't had a hazy in months, and I forgot just how different that profile is.

I also had some crazy farts this morning too.

 

[Tyrsis]

Bought some DDH Orderville and Quickly Open in Portland last night. I don't think I can do these four-packs anymore - for the same price of these I could have gotten 4 sixers of Ponto.

But DDH Orderville was good - though I haven't had a hazy in months, and I forgot just how different that profile is.

I also had some crazy farts this morning too.

Portland didn't do it for me. DDH Orderville is the ******* tits though

 

[kingg]

Three Weavers Knotty Double IPA in cans has been my go-to recently.

 

[Xul1]

Portland didn't do it for me. DDH Orderville is the ******* tits though

As much as some people like to say that hazy IPAs are largely indistinguishable from each other, it's interesting to watch the disparity in reactions as people try them month after month and talk about which ones they prefer.

 

[jwacky]

As much as some people like to say that hazy IPAs are largely indistinguishable from each other, it's interesting to watch the disparity in reactions as people try them month after month and talk about which ones they prefer.

IMO, a lot of beers/styles are indistinguishable from each other unless you're trying them side by side.

 

[Xul1]

IMO, a lot of beers/styles are indistinguishable from each other unless you're trying them side by side.

I'd say it's more a matter of context than simply trying them side by side. A lot of us spent many, many years drinking and picking apart West Coast IPAs so we have a good framework for understanding the subtleties of the style. NEIPAs are a somewhat significant departure in many ways and it takes time for people to catch up in figuring out how to understand and express the nuances and why they like certain ones but not others.

If you don't like NEIPAs, no amount of context is going to change that, but I think that saying they all taste the same is pretty much the same as people who don't like hops saying that all West Coast IPAs are way too bitter.

 

[riko1]

I liked Quickly Open in Portland better than DDH Orderville (which I liked a lot) but honestly, the Avalon cans I had last night were right up there. I might stop buying the $20 MT 4-packs and just buy their seasonal IPAs.

 

[arren]

I'd say it's more a matter of context than simply trying them side by side. A lot of us spent many, many years drinking and picking apart West Coast IPAs so we have a good framework for understanding the subtleties of the style. NEIPAs are a somewhat significant departure in many ways and it takes time for people to catch up in figuring out how to understand and express the nuances and why they like certain ones but not others.

If you don't like NEIPAs, no amount of context is going to change that, but I think that saying they all taste the same is pretty much the same as people who don't like hops saying that all West Coast IPAs are way too bitter.

It's hard because hop-bill rarely even matters in hazies - more often, it comes down to mouthfeel and finish more than anything.

I've found that I'll probably prefer one hazy to another because it has a cleaner finish, or a mouthfeel that doesn't feel gritty - not because it shows the perfect qualities of the Mosaic hops, or has a great balance of bitterness to juiciness.

You could argue that hazys have had crazy appeal because sussing out differences in quality comes down to more simple, intrinsic "feelings" than any quantitative "data."

 

[stawn]

Everyone should come to this!

 

[Tyrsis]

Everyone should come to this!

In

 

[souredstouts]

It's hard because hop-bill rarely even matters in hazies - more often, it comes down to mouthfeel and finish more than anything.

I've found that I'll probably prefer one hazy to another because it has a cleaner finish, or a mouthfeel that doesn't feel gritty - not because it shows the perfect qualities of the Mosaic hops, or has a great balance of bitterness to juiciness.

You could argue that hazys have had crazy appeal because sussing out differences in quality comes down to more simple, intrinsic "feelings" than any quantitative "data."

I agree with this. A lot of it for me is mouth feel and a lot of them tend to have a huge boozyness flavor that is off putting.

 

[rcubed1]

Hazy IPA can often have some big problems with hop burn and tannins if the brewer didn't give a chance for the hops to drop out of solution. This is my biggest issues with these beers. Other than that it's mostly the same hops and yeast and it gets very same-y.

 

[stawn]

Hazy IPA can often have some big problems with hop burn and tannins if the brewer didn't give a chance for the hops to drop out of solution. This is my biggest issues with these beers. Other than that it's mostly the same hops and yeast and it gets very same-y.

Water profile is a huge deal too

 

[LSUPT]

Hazy IPAs fall into 3 categories:

Somewhat enjoyable.

Just another hazy IPA.

Bad.

With ~70% in the middle category. Fite me.

 

[richiesd]

and buy lots of raffle tickets! a lot of us donated cool stuff/services. dont have to be present to win.

Everyone should come to this!

 

[Tyrsis]

and buy lots of raffle tickets! a lot of us donated cool stuff/services. dont have to be present to win.

did you donate a "service"

asking for a friend

the friend is me

 

[rcubed1]

Finally got some Stone Totalitarian IRS. Bottled in February. Really makes me miss the old recipe but this is a great beer. More of ramped up American Stout now. $6 and change is a steal at Costco right now.

 

[DannyFullpint]

1. Monkish
2. Modern Times
3. OtherHalf

 

[smithj21541]

1. Monkish
2. Modern Times
3. OtherHalf

I'll take overly hyped breweries for $500 Alex

 

[DannyFullpint]

I'll take overly hyped breweries for $500 Alex

I don’t line up for any of em, but they make the best hazy ipas.

 

[smithj21541]

I was being a little harsh.