Syracuse, ny - round 7 group grain buy

[CidahMastah]

Do these look right?

HU‐90NPT Newport
HU‐90NBR Northern Brewer
HU‐90MLM Millenium
HU‐90PLR Perle
HU90‐WAR Warrior


FYI if you want the non US types scroll down and let me know the proper skus


Check post #2 to be sure I have you down all right.

 

[CidahMastah]

FYI added one bag of rice hulls to the order. Looks like we are at 42 bags - pallet number one is complete!

 

[BryanJ]

I'm planning on placing an order once I finish moving in the end of April to Ithaca. If I order 5 sacks of grain would there be a minimum on buying hops?

And is anyone else in that area that would want to carpool to pick up their order?

 

[copyright1997]

Do these look right?

HU‐90NPT Newport
HU‐90NBR Northern Brewer
HU‐90MLM Millenium
HU‐90PLR Perle
HU90‐WAR Warrior


FYI if you want the non US types scroll down and let me know the proper skus


Check post #2 to be sure I have you down all right.

Oh, I didn't realize there was another whole page! Wow, more choices. The above look mostly ok. One thing, there is a German Perle (HU-90GPR) which is actually cheaper. Since Perle was originally bred in Germany, I wonder if the HU-90GPR would be a better choice? So, let's change that to HU-90GPR unless someone else chimes in with knowledge on the subject. ( In general, I'm open based on what others also want.)

One other thing, I forgot I also wanted 1# EKG. (HU-90EKG).
Thanks!

 

[jeffb418]

Working on updating the sheet. I'll have it done by tomorrow.

 

[copyright1997]

I would also be interested in "Hops trades" depending on the circumstances, especially if the trading party provided a "known-good" recipe for the hops they would be providing (or even maybe for the hops they were getting).

For example, you have an awesome recipe for Galena (which smells great, as I opened the not so well sealed packages and vacuum sealed them in 8 oz increments) but don't have any. You have some extra xyz, and know some good recipes to use it.

I'm especially looking for recipes that don't rely on Centennial, Cascade, EKG, Amarillo, Simcoe...or only use a tiny bit.

 

[brian4508]

Ok. I'm seriously thinking about this. Since getting into AG last September, I am brewing way more than anticipated, as SWMBO and I are drinking it way too fast. I have a demand to keep up with!!

 

[TravisC]

Does anyone know the status of the keg purchase.

 

[jeffb418]

Hop Splits added to spreadsheet!
I added what currently is entered in post 2 for amounts. Please double check my entries.

Also the following people need to PM me their full name, phone number, and email address if they want access to the spreadsheet:
Westo2
jbsengineer
rustbucket
Drocu

 

[jeffb418]

Also I jumped on the cascade for 1 lb

 

[user 54886]

Hop Splits added to spreadsheet!

Nice, just added a few more #s of hops to my order.

Jumped in on
HU-90CAS Cascade
HU-90FGL Fuggle
HU-90NBR Northern Brewer

 

[CidahMastah]

I'm planning on placing an order once I finish moving in the end of April to Ithaca. If I order 5 sacks of grain would there be a minimum on buying hops?

And is anyone else in that area that would want to carpool to pick up their order?

Welcome!

no minimum on hop buying if you participate in the grain buy at 5 bags. I will let the other folks answer you on the carpooling. We have folks from all over NY who participate so I am sure you will be able to work something out.

 

[CidahMastah]

HOPS

Copyright, I posted your changes to perle - I agree go with the UK version.

Did everyone update or check what they want on the hop section in the new order sheet? It should be current and up to date as of what I know, but please check under your name as I am removing the tracking sheet from post 2.

 

[CidahMastah]

Ok. I'm seriously thinking about this. Since getting into AG last September, I am brewing way more than anticipated, as SWMBO and I are drinking it way too fast. I have a demand to keep up with!!

welcome and please feel free to sink your teeth in! Check posts 1 and 2 for the rules

 

[gcdowd]

Decided to add some EKGs to my hop order.

 

[CidahMastah]

Decided to add some EKGs to my hop order.

Thats the spirit!

I added hallertaur hers and mittlefruh to the sheet as well as another ekg and cascade to my hops (i use a ton of ekg). I use a lot of hallertauer in hte spring and summer for bavarian hefe, blood orange hefe and sam adam's summer ale, etc.

 

[jeffb418]

Added another lb of cascade.

Cidah, what do you use most out of whats on that list?

 

[CidahMastah]

Added another lb of cascade.

Cidah, what do you use most out of whats on that list?

Hey Jeff,

I use a lot of those hops in general actually, so the below will probably be only so helpful. If you like a certain style, that might be more helpful in my telling you what hops I use for that style. I have been putting EKG in a TON of brews lately. That hop is one I use a lot of batches, but in smaller doses (british styled brews).


There are some brews (IPAs, Pale Ales) that eat hops for breakfast (Celebration:centennial/cascade: Wry IPA: Mt. Hood/Columbus: Torpedo: Magnum/Crystal: Amarillo IPA: Amarillo), and a couple more. I will go through a half a pound or up to a lb of hops per 11g batch of one and/or each variety of some of the above brews.

Frequency brews (less hops per brew, but used in many batches) would be in this order of importance:
1. EKG - stouts/porters/english browns, altbiers, etc.
2. Wheats/hefes/dunkels/ etc. (Tett., hallertau hers and hallertau mittlefruh)
3. Northern brewer - stouts
4. Perle

On that list the hops I use the least would be:
Saaz (but I am getting into more and more lager ideas so I assume this will change)
Fuggle
Willamette

Never used:
Newport
Millennium
Warrior

With the hallertau, I sort have certain recipes that I really like to use each one for. It might be completely made up in my head, but when I am trying to accentuate fruit or citrus I use mittlefruh. When I go to accentuate malt character or spice I use hersbrucker in combination with tett. and/or sometimes perle. For some reason I am really convinced they are the "right" ways to get the best accent out of these hops.

I think Tett. and herbs (and perle) work exceptionally well together to get an american wheat; malt forward with some spice to it, like sam adams summer ale or similar.

for that hallertau if I had to pick just one I would go with mittlefruh just because I use more of it according to my notes. However in a pinch I have subbed one for the other to make up the difference in a batch I was short on.

Like others have said... I hate not having the right hops on hand. Time to bulk up on these!!

 

[CidahMastah]

Had a few changes on our sheet:

HU-90CLM Columbus 2
HU-90MTH Mt Hood 4
HU-90GSZ Saaz 3
HU-90GMG Magnum 3
HU-90EKG East Kent Golding 6 (over halfway there)
HU-90CAS Cascade 9 (almost closed)
HU-90CTP Centennial 4
HU-90FGL Fuggle 3
HU-90WLT Willamette 3
HU-90TNG Tettnang 3
HU-90NPT Newport 1
HU-90NBR Northern Brewer 3
HU-90MLM Millenium 1
HU-90GPR Perle 1
HU-90WAR Warrior 1
HU‐90MTF Mittlefruh 1
HU‐90HBR Hersbrucker 1

Keep those hops growing guys, you can't get 'em this cheap otherwise!

 

[CidahMastah]

By the way Jeff, not sure I said it yet... Thanks for adding that hop section to the order sheet - much appreciated!

 

[gcdowd]

I'm so tempted to add more hops...and I probably will.

 

[CidahMastah]

I'm so tempted to add more hops...and I probably will.

after writing all that stuff about hops to Jeff I double checked that list to see if there were more that I could add haha I am getting all amped up just thinking about them!

~ .50 per oz makes hop heavy brews very affordable...

 

[gcdowd]

after writing all that stuff about hops to Jeff I double checked that list to see if there were more that I could add haha I am getting all amped up just thinking about them!

~ .50 per oz makes hop heavy brews very affordable...

Ain't that the truth!

 

[user 54886]

You guys need to stop this discussion during business hours.

You are making my mouth water. And there are still 5 hours left in the day.

 

[jeffb418]

Looks like the guys at Good Natured Brewing out in Hamilton NY are already upgrading their system with only 6 months on it... seems like bad planning to me.

http://syracuse.craigslist.org/for/2915972217.html

 

[CidahMastah]

Looks like the guys at Good Natured Brewing out in Hamilton NY are already upgrading their system with only 6 months on it... seems like bad planning to me.

http://syracuse.craigslist.org/for/2915972217.html

Man, I just spent $50,000 + shipping on some other stuff yesterday... oh wait, that was $50 haha

Yeah really bad planning. Anybody tried their brews?

 

[gcdowd]

Looks like the guys at Good Natured Brewing out in Hamilton NY are already upgrading their system with only 6 months on it... seems like bad planning to me.

http://syracuse.craigslist.org/for/2915972217.html

I know one of the guys who's helping them out, gaining some experience. That would be awesome

 

[copyright1997]

Man, I just spent $50,000 + shipping on some other stuff yesterday... oh wait, that was $50 haha

Cidah, this is an opportunity for you to do another electric upgrade.

 

[CidahMastah]

Cidah, this is an opportunity for you to do another electric upgrade.

Haha - don't temp me!!!

 

[CidahMastah]

Copyright speaking of electric, did you try out that experiment that you were talking about with regard to an "e" setup?