Syracuse, ny - round 6 group grain buy

[CidahMastah]

Just an FYI: the cap on this order will be 168 bags - for real this time It looks like we will reach our 152 bags. Or at least we are close enough to that amount to hold the order until we reach 152.

I am checking in with a few more people to see if there are any late comers on the order but was thinking if we hit the total this week we will officially close the order on Friday, or sooner if I hear back that there are no outstanding orders.

 

[jeffb418]

TF-OPTC is a different one I was considering to try. I have never tried it but you might have read that Jeff's buddy is all about it.

It's definitely worth a shot. Try it anywhere you'd typically use a pale malt. Guess the kernels tend to be a little more plump compared to MO as well. I was debating on picking up another sack of that or something else. But I think I'm at my limit =(

I'd recommend you guys do atleast a 50/50 split on it to try it.

 

[jbsengineer]

TF-OPTC added! Thanks guys!

I have a lot of new stuff to try!

 

[jbsengineer]

Jeff - Does your spreadsheet take into account 50lb sacks?

 

[CBK]

Guys check out the HBT vendor giveaway. Quite impressive.

 

[CidahMastah]

Guys check out the HBT vendor giveaway. Quite impressive.

Nice!

 

[CidahMastah]

Jeff - Does your spreadsheet take into account 50lb sacks?

It should. You can see which are 50lbs sacks when you look under the other tabs on the sheet (Locked pricing....)

 

[jeffb418]

It should. You can see which are 50lbs sacks when you look under the other tabs on the sheet (Locked pricing....)

Correct. The pricing sheets are all entered price per lb, and then total lbs per type. Same thing with the chemicals (rough guess on the star-san).

But here is a question.... do they consider flaked grains part of that 8000 or not? Also we have a 55lb bag of lactose and 50 lb of rice hulls in there too. A total of 6 bags of these types if my count is correct. My sheet includes these in the total grain weight calculations on the first page. Should it?

 

[copyright1997]

Oh yeah here are the payments I have received to date:

Zeno27 $208.73
CBK $191.78 5
WORGANY $250.00
JeffB4218 $828.75
CidahMastah $417.30
Scallywag $219.20
Strecker25 $157.18
Jbsengineer $273.32

Cidah, I sent a check Friday with what I owed at that time. Should be there tomorrow?

 

[CidahMastah]

Cidah, I sent a check Friday with what I owed at that time. Should be there tomorrow?

Thank you sir!

Jeff,

The lactose won't count, and the rice hulls I am not sure. Originally I thought the flaked wheat/ barley would count, but now I am not so sure because they don't have a pricing structure that is affected by the lb like other grains do. If we err on the side of caution how bad does that hurt us?

i.e. how many bags would we need if we don't count the flaked products/ lactose and rice hulls towards the order grain weight?

I could probably call them and check.

 

[copyright1997]

Correct. The pricing sheets are all entered price per lb, and then total lbs per type. Same thing with the chemicals (rough guess on the star-san).

But here is a question.... do they consider flaked grains part of that 8000 or not? Also we have a 55lb bag of lactose and 50 lb of rice hulls in there too. A total of 6 bags of these types if my count is correct. My sheet includes these in the total grain weight calculations on the first page. Should it?

I would take the following approach. If I were speaking with CMG, I would say "It DOES COUNT". Would CMG *really* give up a $5500+ order over a $.01/# price break (about $79 as I type), especially if the order is close? Also remember that we are now a good repeat customer whose order quantities have been going up over time.

 

[CidahMastah]

SHOOT!
"All malt products are available in either whole kernel or milled form. Please allow an additional 1‐3 days for milling.
Prices are discounted according to the total malt ordered on a single order. These price breaks are as follows:
< 2,000 lbs.
2 &#8208; 4,000 lbs.
8,000 lbs.
12,000 lbs.
32,000 lbs.
Please call for bulk pricing."

Only malt products. Flaked wheat, rice hulls won't count (since they are raw, unmalted products).

 

[copyright1997]

Just an FYI: the cap on this order will be 168 bags - for real this time It looks like we will reach our 152 bags. Or at least we are close enough to that amount to hold the order until we reach 152.

I am checking in with a few more people to see if there are any late comers on the order but was thinking if we hit the total this week we will officially close the order on Friday, or sooner if I hear back that there are no outstanding orders.

I am still on the edge over one more sack. I'm struggling with what to get assuming that I will have enough grains for quite a while. Hopefully when we reach 152 we can do a 24 hour (or whatever) "last call". There might be a few folks out there still trying to decide whether to have "one more".

 

[jeffb418]

SHOOT!
"All malt products are available in either whole kernel or milled form. Please allow an additional 1&#8208;3 days for milling.
Prices are discounted according to the total malt ordered on a single order. These price breaks are as follows:
< 2,000 lbs.
2 &#8208; 4,000 lbs.
8,000 lbs.
12,000 lbs.
32,000 lbs.
Please call for bulk pricing."

Only malt products. Flaked wheat, rice hulls won't count (since they are raw, unmalted products).

I'll remove those products from the weight tally for the 8000 mark then right now.

 

[CidahMastah]

I'll remove those products from the weight tally for the 8000 mark then right now.

also remove chemicals and lactose

 

[hoptopia]

I've never ordered in group buy, but of you only need 4 more 50lbs bags to I'll the order, I'm in. I didn't see grain options or prices... If someone wants to fill me in on how this works that would be great.

 

[CidahMastah]

I've never ordered in group buy, but of you only need 4 more 50lbs bags to I'll the order, I'm in. I didn't see grain options or prices... If someone wants to fill me in on how this works that would be great.

Basically the information is in the first few posts. If you put you name on the order sheet (post#2) then you will be able to add grain bags real time. They will add a cost to your name at the top column. Expect the prices there to be a few bucks on the high side (your end price should be less than what has been reported on the sheet). General pricing is about 35$ including shipping for CM-2ROW and maybe $45 for Marris Otter or similar. Specialty malts are usually done in fractions or splits. If you want to put a split up (.25 or .33, etc of a bag you can do so by listing the item under the split section on the order form.)

Do you need grain brand recommendations?

Post # 1 has the link so you can view the catalog.

Next buy will be in about 4 months, so stock up now

Good to have you along

 

[jeffb418]

Total malt weight calculation updated on the front page (Cell 4B). Removed the lactose, rice hulls, and the 4 bags of flaked XXXX from this estimate. So from my calculations, we need 9 more bags to hit the 8000# mark. So we need to exceed 158 now.

New Target 158

 

[CidahMastah]

Total malt weight calculation updated on the front page (Cell 4B). Removed the lactose, rice hulls, and the 4 bags of flaked XXXX from this estimate. So from my calculations, we need 9 more bags to hit the 8000# mark. So we need to exceed 158 now.

New Target 158

better than I though... we can do it!

in that spirit I will add a .5 split of TF-OPTC for anyone interested. I put it in at thirds but will be willing to go up to .5

 

[rustbucket]

as a week ago you thought 4 pallets were out of the question HA... i dont think so tim...

 

[CidahMastah]

as a week ago you thought 4 pallets were out of the question HA... i dont think so tim...

I think people are finally realizing how great a resource these buys are


CBK and copyright - I have your checks (50.27 abd 279.73). Thanks!


Zeno27 $208.73
CBK $242.05
WORGANY $250.00
JeffB4218 $828.75
CidahMastah $417.30
Scallywag $219.20
Strecker25 $157.18
Jbsengineer $273.32
Copyright $279.73

 

[Bish07]

Alright, I'm adding 1 CM-2ROW before its too late.

 

[CidahMastah]

Alright, I'm adding 1 CM-2ROW before its too late.

that's the spirit!

 

[jeffb418]

8 more to go!

 

[copyright1997]

I've never ordered in group buy, but of you only need 4 more 50lbs bags to I'll the order, I'm in. I didn't see grain options or prices... If someone wants to fill me in on how this works that would be great.

1. Where do you live....just making sure you are aware that you will have to pick up the grain at the designated place (Syracuse).

2. Some grains come in 55# sacks, some in 50#. Not a big deal, but just making you aware. The most popular is the CM-2ROW (Canadian Malting) as it is cheapest and works well. (Comes in a 55# sack.)

 

[copyright1997]

better than I though... we can do it!

in that spirit I will add a .5 split of TF-OPTC for anyone interested. I put it in at thirds but will be willing to go up to .5

I also went in for 1/3 sack, and am also willing to go up to 1/2 if no-one else takes the other third. The only thing I am worried about (a bit) is the fact that it is harder to transport partial sacks vs full sacks (in my car) due to needing a bucket (assuming I don't get the last 1/3 or whatever), and the amount of space needed. (I'm up to 10 splits plus the sacks.)

Edit: Just noticed (looking at the spreadsheet) that we are almost at a full pallet of 2row (35 CM + 4 GW). WOW.

 

[jeffb418]

For those who store grain or hops via a vac sealer, I picked up some bags online last week in anticipation of this grain buy. Found these bags called quart plus sized bags. They are the width of normal quart vac sealer bags, but double the length. I filled this one up to 6lbs of Munich tonight to see how much I could fit. You prob could fit 7lbs in one if you really tried.

Here is where you can order them. 50 for ~$17. I plan on vac'ing up most of my splits to keep em fresh for awhile. http://www.thesweetattack.com/page/page/2380629.htm

 

[Smashing]

closed the optic out. I'm done! Cidah - I'll have a check out to you in the AM.

 

[CidahMastah]

closed the optic out. I'm done! Cidah - I'll have a check out to you in the AM.

nice! one more to the pile 7 more to go?

hoptopia - there are some people from buffalo area in the buy. Likely with a few messages when the buy closes you guys can coordinate a mutually beneficial pick up coordination.

 

[bierhaus15]

Added 2 more sacks. Only a few left!