River Tubing with a Cornie Keg

[pizzaman]

I would thank you would get crazy foam from this, Plus your yeast will never settle. Why not just take PET bottles?
What kind of rapids are we talkin' here?

We are just talking about tubing, so when I say rough water I don't mean white water or anything near it, but it is rough enough to leave a dent in a keg if proper care weren't taken. Would the foam be caused by it laying on its side or by the shaking around; I thought as long as the keg is pressurized there wouldn't be much of a foam problem. I originally wanted to just take bottles, my thought bubble went from glass to aluminum to plastic. The only problem we would have is having to pour from the bottle into a cup; not an easy thing to do when laying in a tube. It would be easy enough to fill a cup from a tap...you do raise an interesting point about the yeast though.

 

[flyangler18]

Now that you have the keg, force carb and bottle from the keg. No worries about decanting.

 

[pizzaman]

Now that you have the keg, force carb and bottle from the keg. No worries about decanting.

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait......I can bottle beer AFTER I force carb it? Would there still be any bottle conditioning? Wouldn't there still be yeast in the bottles?


[EDIT]I see..... https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/we-no-need-no-stinking-beer-gun-24678/[/EDIT]

 

[JesseRC]

no, do a search for We dont need no stinkin beer gun

 

[flyangler18]

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait......I can bottle beer AFTER I force carb it? Would there still be any bottle conditioning? Wouldn't there still be yeast in the bottles?

No bottle conditioning, since you've ideally aged in the keg.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/we-no-need-no-stinking-beer-gun-24678/

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

I am in the process of gathering parts to build somthing like this. The plan is to get one of the large square igloo coolers, and make a protable draft box out of it much like the picture posted above by using 2-3 gallon cornies and a paintball CO2 tank.

Now as far as floating, My bro-in-law took one of these coolers, and mounted a collar of 6"PVC around the midline of the cooler. Now the cooler is self floating, you can roll it with the wheels and handle, holds all the beer you want, and with a dry bag and some caribiners can hold all the stuff you don't want to get wet. This way you do not need to rent any extra tubes and your cooler is self contained and portable. Hope this helps!

 

[pizzaman]

Just had a thought for how to contain the corney upright inside my cooler with an extra bucket I got for free from walmart, the pics are pretty self-explanatory:

How it will look once the hole is cut in the lid of the cooler:

I do like deathweeds idea to put a ring of pvc around an ice-cube type cooler...it's snug but I can fit two cornies in mine if needed: The pvc idea had crossed my mind after coming across this forum: http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-building/pvc-raft-17578.html (scroll down a bit to see the madness)

 

[lamarguy]

I am in the process of gathering parts to build somthing like this. The plan is to get one of the large square igloo coolers, and make a protable draft box out of it much like the picture posted above by using 2-3 gallon cornies and a paintball CO2 tank.

If it flips in the rapids, you're not worried about getting the co2 regulator wet?

I've got a 2.5 gallon setup (with a paintball tank), but I'm not willing to risk possibly destroying it on the river...I realize the rivers in Texas are pretty low this year, so there's not much risk of damage. But, one liter soda bottles (counter-pressure filled) and plastic cups meet my needs well on the river.

 

[JesseRC]

Thats awesome. We've got a litle bit of property over at Medina Lake, and I've thought about using pvc as flotation for my dock. Nice to see someone's used it already. The lengths we will go to , just to make sure we can have a brew.

 

[pen25]

pen let me know when you are headed to tahlequah i am floating this year too
in fact we should try to get a oklahoma members float trip planed

we plan on being on the river june 20th. i have to send an email out to the group to tell them to save the soda pet bottles if they want my fat tire and soon to be creme of 3 crops on the river.

 

[IrregularPulse]

I would just BMBF some PET bottles. It's super easy. Especially if you're doing it the night before or weekend before the trip If it's not perect no biggie. They would get shaken up the same as a can of beer would foam wise. So maybe carb them a little less than usualy to avoid loosing everything to foam. But again i have no idea how shaky the waters are.

 

[pizzaman]

I would just BMBF some PET bottles.

Good idea, but what fun is that? Then I don't get to build anything creative and outlandish.

 

[GreenMan]

A full corny of water is 45 lbs. I will be keeping an eye on this thread as my friends and I will be hitting up some CO rivers in tubes for multi-day trips.

If you let the kegs age for long enough all the yeast should be settled and just take a pint or so out before taking it on the river to get rid of most of the yeast sediment.

Foaming shouldn't be a problem any more then a can would be and when we took cans we dragged them in a bag in the water and didn't have any problems with foaming.

 

[pizzaman]

My cornies weigh 50 lbs when filled. I did fill them to the very top, so possibly more than 5 gallons. I've given up on the sideways keg idea for now, it would just take too large of an investment for something that may or may not work good. I'm definitely using one of the coolers I already have, probably the rolling-ice-cube, and fixing some PVC tubing to it so it will be self-floating. I'm either gonna buy 2 more 5L mini-kegs for $40 total, or gonna cut a hole in the lid to fit one 5 gal cornie. If I do cut a hole in the lid I'll be adding a PVC tower to the top to keep the cornie out of the elements, keep it from floating up as it gets emptied, and so I can add a pretty tap to it one day.

 

[lamarguy]

I'm either gonna buy 2 more 5L mini-kegs for $40 total, or gonna cut a hole in the lid to fit one 5 gal cornie. If I do cut a hole in the lid I'll be adding a PVC tower to the top to keep the cornie out of the elements, keep it from floating up as it gets emptied, and so I can add a pretty tap to it one day.

Ha...Pizzaman, between the floating cooler/bucket idea and dispensing beer from soda bags, you're one wacky dude...A+ for creativity, though!

 

[Rhoobarb]

Paint it black and it will look like the Deathmobile.

 

[pizzaman]

...you're one wacky dude...

I do what I can.....funny you left out the bike pump keg thread? There's 25 pages of madness if you've ever seen it.

 

[lamarguy]

I do what I can.....funny you left out the bike pump keg thread? There's 25 pages of madness if you've ever seen it.

Ha...I just read the last page...It appears you're making some sort of CO2 bomb to take on the river.

 

[IrregularPulse]

Ha...Pizzaman, between the floating cooler/bucket idea and dispensing beer from soda bags, you're one wacky dude...A+ for creativity, though!

I do what I can.....funny you left out the bike pump keg thread? There's 25 pages of madness if you've ever seen it.

Oh man I didn't realize you were that guy!!!
disregard all my suggestion for logic and go as nuts as you can dream up. No matter how unnecessarily complicated it makes it
Instead of CO2 you could probably make a whirlpool device to capture fish in the water forcing there swimming movement to create pressure that you can capture in the cooler with maybe a sheep's bladder, then as this bladder expands it could push a bike pump handle down to push pressure into the corny to push the beer out! Much simpler than figuring out who to get a co2 tank safely down the river and much better than those boring portable CO2 cartridges.

 

[pizzaman]

Yes, a sheep's bladder. That's the ticket.

 

[MrWiggles]

Ahhh I hate cliffhangers!

So what happened? Which did you end up using? The PET bottles, the converted ice cube, mini kegs???

 

[mazultav]

Ive been considering a dry land version. Id like to know what you ended up with as well.

 

[noggins]

well pizzaman was banned for some confusion created by yooper, I have a feeling he had a kid and had to sell his kegging equipment, and decided to just bottle his river brews in plastic soda bottles. It probably worked out really well minus the occasional spilled cup