Removing Trub

[rsneff]

HI All,
I always have a problem with Trub and cold break removal from the kettle to the primary. Is it OK to move the entire kettle with water up to 5 Gals (assuming a 5 gal batch) to a holding carboy/bucket for 8 hours or so for settlying and then siphon and pitch to another bucket/carboy? If so is 8 hours to long or not enough? Just another step but willing to do it to get less trub in the primary.

Other thoughts and advise welcome.

Thanks!

 

[amandabab]

You could, I'd want to hold it below the danger zone for those 8 hours and then bring it up to temp before pitching.

Why does it matter how much stuff is in the primary?

 

[Golddiggie]

Why does it matter how much stuff is in the primary?

It doesn't... If anything, having the hot and cold break, and other stuff, in the fermenter is of a benefit.

I drain until into primary until it stops, taking everything with it. I do use a hop spider since I have a plate chiller, but I let whatever hold/cold break wants to go into the fermenter go into it. IMO, letting it settle out, then transfer to another vessel to ferment in without all that will make for a lesser brew. Not to mention make more work for you and leave you open to infection/contamination longer than is necessary (or wise)...

 

[DroolingNeoBrewery]

you can always pour it through a sanitized strainer or mesh bag once cooled on the way to your primary.

The directions in my brew book state the following advise:

"Whirlpool

Once cooled take a sanitized spoon and stir the wort in a clockwise manner for several minutes or until you cannot stir any longer. This will form a whirlpool effect in the pot and cause the trub to all collect in a cone on the bottom of the pot. Then using your sanitized racking cane syphon into your primary until the trub blocks the cane. Then pour the rest into the primary through a sanitized ss strainer."

But i have never done that. extract brews have always gone straight in. with grain i put a mesh filter bag in my boil pot before i add the wort then pour in the wort and pull out the mesh bag out (through the wort) before i do my boil. that gets rid of anything that makes it through the first mesh bag (i do biab). i also use a hop sack during the boil. after that everything left ends up in the fv.

 

[ajf]

I have a false bottom in the kettle, and use whole hops and a CFC.
The hops on the false bottom work as a wonderful filter, and get rid of all the hot break, but the CFC generates the cold break between the kettle and the fermenter.
The only time I worry about this is when brewing a lager when I do what you suggested, except I leave it for 16 hours rather than 8 because I like to sleep. It works fine for me.

-a.

 

[helibrewer]

I was just listening to a podcast with Jamil and Palmer and they suggested that there is plenty of everything in suspension for fermentation and to leave as much material behind as possible by whirlpooling. It went something like; whirlpool for 30 min, then let things settle for 30 min, then pump or rack to the fermentor.

 

[amandabab]

I was just listening to a podcast with Jamil and Palmer and they suggested that there is plenty of everything in suspension for fermentation and to leave as much material behind as possible by whirlpooling. It went something like; whirlpool for 30 min, then let things settle for 30 min, then pump or rack to the fermentor.

The 4th edition must be coming out soon.