Recipe Ideas for 'The Beast'

[landhoney]

Belzebuth! Yeah we didn't like it so much.
Anyway, that sweet-alcoholic-weird(sorry DeathBrewer) finish is what I'm looking to avoid. How would you(everyone who's tasted it) describe the finish?

 

[DeathBrewer]

heh. i think alcoholic would pretty much cover it. sweet. dry. kinda dries you up like u just took a shot of ethanol good stuff.

 

[abt]

That has a lot to do with yeast and temperature.
You have to trust me on this one: WLP530 can take mid-70's and up to 20% sugar without breaking a sweat.
To avoid the alcohol "heat" you really just have to keep the alcohol down. Making a balanced alcoholic beer, on the other hand, is alot about getting the IBU's to match up with the TG and the AA, IYKWIM.
Bet some money that Avery did a few test batches to hit a balance they could stand behind. It'll be sheer luck if you can get the process and ingredients nailed the first try. But it'll be beer, and I bet it'll be good. Take notes, and if it's too hot, lower the grain bill. If it's too sweet, either up the sugar, lower the mash temp or up the IBU's. It's an art after all, not a science.

 

[landhoney]

I made some attempt to look up those abbreviations, but no luck.
My guess 'abt':

TG= total grain?
AA= actual alcohol? I usually see ABV
IYKWIM = ????WTF????

But please let me know what you meant, though I get the jist.
Also, how long should I wait to hear back from Avery before giving up? I know its only been a few days, how long does it usually take? I got an itch to brew and its going to be scratched by the end of the weekend - 2 more brerws will be in the primary ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!!!!! :rockin:

 

[uwmgdman]

I made some attempt to look up those abbreviations, but no luck.
My guess 'abt':

TG= total grain?
AA= actual alcohol? I usually see ABV
IYKWIM = ????WTF????

But please let me know what you meant, though I get the jist.
Also, how long should I wait to hear back from Avery before giving up? I know its only been a few days, how long does it usually take? I got an itch to brew and its going to be scratched by the end of the weekend - 2 more brerws will be in the primary ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!!!!! :rockin:

TG= terminal gravity (same as final gravity FG)
AA= apparent attenuation (the attenuation rates listed by yeast companies)
IYKWIM = ????WTF???? agreed, no idea

 

[landhoney]

Thanks UWMGDMAN, we'll have to wait for 'abt' to fill us in on the last one.

 

[abt]

Sorry! My BAD!
It's:
Apparent Attenuation (as in (OG-TG)/OG as percentage)
and
If You Know What I Mean!

 

[landhoney]

Do you guys think I'm off my rocker to think they add the raisins,dates,etc. The reason is that the commercial description on ratebeer.com lists the grains,hops, and 'brewing sugars' very descriptively. Take a look @:
http://www.ratebeer.com/Beer/avery-the-beast-grand-cru-ale/30519/

It seems to me this an older description that Avery used to use, or maybe gave out so people would have an idea what it was or something. It even list water as an ingredient and lists that they use one belgian and another helion(badboy) of a yeast strain. Ratebeer.com did not invent this description, so I feel it must be from Avery. I have emailed both, and no response in weeks, and I tried to be friendly too - but not kiss as*. I appreciate 'abt's opinion I just can't see that descrition meaning something else. Am I missing something? I CAN'T get past this.