quick question on legality

Special Hops · Jan 5, 2011

Mischief_Brewing said:
The problem us Jersians have is that NJ requires a $15 annual permit to brew beer that I'm sure none of us have taken the time to get. If you have the police turn up for any reason during a brew day (meth lab complaint), you can get screwed pretty well. Just like the guy caught with a pocket knife at a DUI checkpoint. F@%king NJ laws...

What's wrong with having a pocket knife?

slinky0390 · Jan 5, 2011

Mischief_Brewing said:
The problem us Jersians have is that NJ requires a $15 annual permit to brew beer that I'm sure none of us have taken the time to get. If you have the police turn up for any reason during a brew day (meth lab complaint), you can get screwed pretty well. Just like the guy caught with a pocket knife at a DUI checkpoint. F@%king NJ laws...

Yeah, I have that permit

I was always wondering why the home brew shop, which is set up to brew on premise, requires you to purchase the permit prior to brewing at their place, but doesn't question you when you buy your own stuff to home brew. There should probably be more awareness, but like I said, I'm sure many law enforcement officers do not know laws on home brewing and probably wouldn't hassle you. At least in my town they don't they only know three statutes, speeding, not wearing seatbelt, and talking on a cell phone while operating a motor vehicle.

Mischief_Brewing · Jan 5, 2011

Special Hops said:
What's wrong with having a pocket knife?

NJ laws are so vague on what constitutes a concealed weapon, it has been severely abused by both law enforcement and the legal system in general. Recently, a guy was randomly stopped at a DUI checkpoint, completely sober, but he had a pocket knife that the officers on scene determined was unlawful and they arrested him. A night in jail and several thousand dollars in legal fees and he still hasn't beaten the charges.

And slinky, you must do the brew on premises down there at the freehold supply shop. They're required to have people get that permit. I've purchased grains from them, decent people there.

slinky0390 · Jan 5, 2011

Special Hops said:
What's wrong with having a pocket knife?

You legally cannot transport a knife in your car that is over a certain length in NJ. And if you are under 18 it is illegal to own a knife that is 5 inches or longer. This state is kinda muffed up with their laws.

Mischief_Brewing · Jan 5, 2011

slinky0390 said:
You legally cannot transport a knife in your car that is over a certain length in NJ. And if you are under 18 it is illegal to own a knife that is 5 inches or longer. This state is kinda muffed up with their laws.

The problem with NJ law is that the length isn't specified. The working interpretation, according to the stories I've read about they guy I mentioned above's trial, is that it can be any sized knife that isn't being transported for your work.

slinky0390 · Jan 5, 2011

Mischief_Brewing said:
NJ laws are so vague on what constitutes a concealed weapon, it has been severely abused by both law enforcement and the legal system in general. Recently, a guy was randomly stopped at a DUI checkpoint, completely sober, but he had a pocket knife that the officers on scene determined was unlawful and they arrested him. A night in jail and several thousand dollars in legal fees and he still hasn't beaten the charges.

And slinky, you must do the brew on premises down there at the freehold supply shop. They're required to have people get that permit. I've purchased grains from them, decent people there.

I would brew there, but I cant justify the price. I like to brew smaller batches which cost between 30-60 dollars where if you brew there its around 200 something if i remember correctly. I get my grain bill from there and they are good people, pretty helpful too.