American Lager Pilsner SMaSH US-05 vs. 34/70 SPLIT

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m1k3

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Location
El Dorado Hills
Recipe Type
All Grain
Yeast
US-05 vs. 34/70
Yeast Starter
no DRY
Batch Size (Gallons)
10
Original Gravity
1.055
Final Gravity
1.012
Boiling Time (Minutes)
90
IBU
40.1 culculated
Color
3.2
Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp)
65ish start cool and ramp up after 3 days
Secondary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp)
nope
Tasting Notes
51 points, of course.
I'm brewing this "Pilsner SMaSH" again. Amazing.

10-gallon batch (suggested)
100% Pilsner Malt (From Germany you pick)
SMaSH 1.055ish OG
you pick the hop (mine was Mosaic) 40ish IBUs

US-05 for 5 gallons
(then dry hop -- I used 4oz Citra) :rockin:

34/70 for the other 5 gallons (no dry hop)

Ferment in the middle range for ale/lager (55-65F is fine)

Drink the US-05 dry hop beer young.
Do NOT touch the 34/70 beer until all the dry hop ale is gone.

The longer you can wait the better for the lager (within reason).
Today, I'm drinking the 34/70 version at 4 months. Amazing.

They were two of the best beers I've ever had.

Ok, if you don't like the "ish"s in my recipe here are the details.
(this version was 15 gallons with my buddy taking 5)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 19.19 gal
Post Boil Volume: 17.19 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 15.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 14.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.054 SG
Estimated Color: 3.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 40.1 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 79.2 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8.0 oz Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 1 1.6 %
30 lbs Pilsner (Schill) (1.7 Grain 2 98.4 %
1.50 oz Magnum [14.00 %] - Boi Hop 3 24.8 IBUs
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil Fining 4 -
3.80 oz Mosaic (HBC 369) [12.3 Hop 5 12.9 IBUs
3.80 oz Mosaic (HBC 369) [12.3 Hop 6 2.4 IBUs
2.0 pkg Saflager Lager (DCL/Fe Yeast 7 -
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/ Yeast 8 -
4.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 9 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 30 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 10.53 gal of water 154.5 F 60 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 13.32 gal water at 168.0 F
Notes:
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TARGET Mash @ 154.5F
TARGET 1.055 OG

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6:09am started heating water (75F)
6:31am 148F HLT
6:40am 178F HLT
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6:55am Mash was 163.2F !! (too hot)
added unheated filtered water to mash
6:58F Mash was 153.5F (just right)
7:45am stirred mash 151.5F
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Heating sparge water
7:46am 143F HLT
8:02am 190F HLT
8:02am started vorlauf
3rd runnings measured at 1.020
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9:01am just over 20 gallons collected @ 1.040
9:04am boil started
9:40am 60 min hop added
10:25am whirlfloc added (1 tab)
10:35am 5 min hop addition
10:40am flame out hop addition
 
Really thinking about giving this a try, want to check a pilsner off my list. How do you think this beer would do at a bit higher ferm temp? Say 68F, I have a cool brewing bag so I'm sure I could get it down past that of I need to. Also what times are you adding your hops?
 
Really thinking about giving this a try, want to check a pilsner off my list. How do you think this beer would do at a bit higher ferm temp? Say 68F, I have a cool brewing bag so I'm sure I could get it down past that of I need to. Also what times are you adding your hops?

I had real good results with a "pilsner" fermented at 72 with Wyeast Pacman yeast.
Check out the Last Drop column in the Mar/Apr Zymurgy.
 
Think you have this in the wrong spot mate. This is by every measure a blond ale...not a lager.
 
The beer(s) sounds wonderful - I have a tendency to want to call it a blonde ale, too, in part because of the hop schedule and choices - definitely the US-05. The 34/70...not sure, since it's pastorianus instead of cerevisiae - kind of a steam beer or the like.

Either way, sounds lovely.
 
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