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Perhaps I will, my wife and I can fly one leg to Denver from IND on our flight bennies... sounds like some cheap fun!!!

Pol
 
I can also get an airline hotel rate with my ID... :ban:

Pol
 
Funny that I've been discussing homebrewing on a pilot forum and now discussing flying on a homebrew forum.

Comm ASEL/AMEL/Glider, instrument, CFI, CFII, IGI with about 1850 hours right here. I flew survey for 3.5 years and recently quit to become a full-time contract pilot and go out to find my big break... no real interest in the airline thing, that seems too much like work.

Anyone with a commercial rating ought to come over to propilotworld.com and join up... quite a wealth of info, no trolls like the hellhole of flightinfo.
 
z987k said:
Seems like the pay isn't to good though, 22,000 a year? I can make more working a high school edu job.

I have a good friend that is only making 15K a year as a pilot right now. I make that working part time.But it did let him get lots of hours and now he got offered a job starting out at 60K and a 7% part in the company. Im really glad that i made the decision to just keep flying as hobby and not a job. I would like to go into the Marines after college flying though (If i can get my fat ass back into shape).
 
Private Pilot also, but haven't flown in 20 years now, ever since I started truck driving. Too expensive now to rent a plane.
 
Dave R said:
Private Pilot also, but haven't flown in 20 years now, ever since I started truck driving. Too expensive now to rent a plane.
I hear that, when I started 5 years ago i was paying 55 and hour for a piper 140. Now everywhere wants at least 110. This is my main reason for wanting to build a homebuilt. Its the only way for a middle class person to fly anymore.
 
Nah you can buy an older plane for what it would cost to homebuild.

but yeah we pay 103 for our Cherokee 180 with instruction.
 
z987k said:
Nah you can buy an older plane for what it would cost to homebuild.

but yeah we pay 103 for our Cherokee 180 with instruction.

Yeah but long term its alot cheaper. Do it your self maintenance. That and i enjoy working on things. 103 with instructor is cheap.
 
it's with the university, so I'm paying tuition also, I'm sure that makes up for it, but then again I also take other classes.
 
SEL/MEL/Instrument Commercial with the same as CFI (SEL/MEL/Inst) Quit in 95 with 3400+hrs TT Never got the break, so went to work for the Manufacturer... now only the 2nd largest in the world. Happy to be home everyday and a decent paycheck. Don't think I'll get back into the sky though. I've lost the bug I had for it once, I've lost too many Pilot friends due to issues beyond their control..(3 due to faulty maint) and now I just don't have the trust you need, and I don't think building my own and doing my own maint would cure that. I'm a perfectionist at heart and there just isn't any getting away from that.
Cheers to you fellow pilot/brewers seems this hobby has some similarities as to control, configuration, proceedure etc that come hand in hand.
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Private Pilot here. About 100 hours or so.
Started training in Las Vegas. Finished Training in Fairbanks, AK. So my 100 hours includes mountain flying, and extreme hot/cold weather and some really great site seeing in Alaska. A 172 can really climb below 0F.
 
A&P/SEL/MEL/Instrument Commercial and about to finish up with CFI within the next few weeks.

College and pilot training have been a blast:tank:, but with graduation looming I’m not sure about going the professional pilot route in these hard times. I will probably try and weather the down turn as a mechanic.

Thanks to my military service there are plenty of government jobs out there that offer the job security I need. Still plan on do instructor work on the side to stay current and build time.

I love flying; I’m just not sure if I like the lifestyle.:confused:
 
The lifestyle can blow... the money really blows for years... it can be a frustrating road.
 
I have a few hours in a Cessna 172, haha. :)

The final training flight I had was weird, and I am sure the CFI thought it scared me off flying. It didn't; it taught me two things about myself that relieved me of the desire to sit in the left-hand seat:

1. I am not naturally gifted in the pilot department; the task overload stuff slays me. Many people have told me that I have a "pilot's personality" (whatever that means) but I learned I don't cope well with input overload. I opted out before getting someone hurt.

2. I do ok in case of in-flight emergency. I "continued to fly the plane" as planned and as instructed. The conversation went something like this:
ME (at the controls): We have an annunciator on (whatever).
ME: and, uh, now have an annunciator on (whatever2).
CFI: (looking over everything) Continue to fly the plane.
ME: We have annunciators on (whatevers 3 and 4). And now...
CFI: Continue to fly the plane while I start the emergency checklist.

We made a pretty good team. I flew the little bird in the direction he indicated while he did the emergency checklist and shut everything down. I had been practicing landings by this time (and handled the descent while he finished up the list) but due to the, uhhh, impromptu landing strip being made of prairie grass and populated by cows he handled the actual landing. No cows were injured in the making of this landing, but they looked a little surprised.

We were on the ground for several minutes before I saw what the problem was (me, the low-hour student). The CFI always wanted to alter one part of the preflight and I wasn't man enough to demand we follow the checklist verbatim. It resulted in a chain of events that resulted in our parking inelegantly in a cow field. We did a correct checklist, and after waiting a while the battery recovered enough to get the engine started and return to the airport. The upside is I got an extra hour of instruction time out of it and the delay meant it was now dark, and it was completely, transcendentally beautiful flying at night.

Since no one from the flight school or FAA ever questioned me about it I assume this means the CFI didn't mention it to anyone. I don't know if he was required to, but I bet he doesn't skip/alter sections of the checklist anymore.

PostScript: About a month later I went back to get my deposit back (as I was not continuing) and the school had disappeared with no forwarding address. Never got my $100 deposit back.
 
Task overload, or simply information overload in newer aircraft with really advanced glass avionics can happen to some. I happen to love task overload, I get geeked up on it. Slow down, descend, caution following the heavy at 11 o'clock and 5 miles, maintain 180 knots... we are too high on the slope, we need to slow down, gear down.... etc... I love it!!!!

The nice thing about flying a two person crew is that the FO generally flies during the emergency and the captain runs the checklists and makes the appropriate notifications. Dividing up the duties, or CRM, makes for a great synergy that is needed ot tackle some issues.

I had my first emergency as a captain a couple weeks ago... and it went very smoothly. I have had several while sitting as the FO, but this was my first in the left seat, as a captain. There is no replacement for a good crew, no replacement at all.
 
Cool thread!! Ex-pilot here with about 2500 hours. I started at about 17 and had all ratings at 22 (1996). Instructed for a couple years but decided to get out of the business and get into something more stable and better paying. I do miss it at times but several friends of mine that stuck with it are not too happy. One is on their 4th flying job in 8 years (involuntarily). Tough industry. Hey Pol, are you still with Republic? Have you had to deal with furloughs or are you still hiring? Amazing how quickly things can change.
 
Cool thread!! Ex-pilot here with about 2500 hours. I started at about 17 and had all ratings at 22 (1996). Instructed for a couple years but decided to get out of the business and get into something more stable and better paying. I do miss it at times but several friends of mine that stuck with it are not too happy. One is on their 4th flying job in 8 years (involuntarily). Tough industry. Hey Pol, are you still with Republic? Have you had to deal with furloughs or are you still hiring? Amazing how quickly things can change.

Hey, welcome to the thread.

I am still with Republic, this is my first airline, I am going on 6 years here and I personally love it. The pay, eh, isnt bad for a kid who grew up on a dairy farm with no college degree! We are not hiring, we have a few guys on furlough, but looks like they are coming back before long.

I am like, oh... #690 out of about 2100 pilots, so I dont plan to go anywhere. I like being a captain, the pay is good and my seniority is something I dont wish to forfiet to go somewhere else.
 
I'm not a pilot but I work for an airline. The best part homebrewing wise seems to be discounts on cargo so I can get malt shipped home pretty cheap. :D
 
Drizzle, are you still brewing, never see you here brotha.
 
Drizzle, are you still brewing, never see you here brotha.

Haven't been drinking much the last few months. I'm about to take my first lager out of the lagerator and get it carbing. It's brilliantly clear, I've just been running around so much when I'm home I forget to do it between naps. Also, I've been steering clear of a lot of internet lately.
 
Well, it is nice to see ya back!!

STILL waiting to find out what edition of BYO my rig is going to be in....:confused:
 
Great thread!
Been looking for something like this for a long time.
CFI with 2,000 hours and looking for ANYTHING to move up.
Since the airlines have stopped, everything else has as well:mad:
 
Yeah, I was having a talk with a UA jumpseater the other day... talking about the reduction in lines and a/c on thier side. He said ALPA is getting is a$$ handed to it, and there is nothing they can do.

I have a feeling that UA is looking to replace the lost lift when they park all of those 737s with something regional, larger... 190? I told him, if we do that, then the regionals will be the new mainline. Mainlines wont be hiring for years and years if the 190s get contracted to regionals...

Also, grumblings of Continental picking up ramp handling for UA in the cities where mainline UA is pulling its ground handling... hrmmmmm, curious. Wonder where those merger talks are now days...

Aviaiton is a fickle beast!
 

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