paper/clay taste after filtering????

[RickyLopez]

I bought one of those octagonal beer filters that uses circular filter pads....

And well..... it seems tto leave a papery taste....is there any way to minimize this???? Am I doing something wrong????? Can anyone give me suggestions for these?

 

[ClaudiusB]

And well..... it seems tto leave a papery taste....is

Interesting observation.
I have been using those pads for years and never noticed any off flavors.
Maybe the problem is not the pads, your beer could be at fault (oxidation).
An off flavor caused by oxidation would be cardboard taste.
Filtering removes the strong yeast flavor and brings out your beers cardboard
taste.

Am I doing something wrong?????

Your process?

FILTERING INFO
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/plate-filtering-pictorial-238690/

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/i-got-plate-filter-now-how-do-i-use-200618/

Cheers,
ClaudiusB

 

[RickyLopez]

I'm not sure if that's it... the pads have a smell to em..and that smell/taste comes through in the beer... it tastes "paper" like.

Do u do anything to prep those pads? Soak them? Rinse them? Also...the fellow at the brewshop told me he cuts these disks himself from bigger "real brewery" sheets.... maybe they use something to cut them that comes through? Where do you get your pads?

 

[ClaudiusB]

I'm not sure if that's it... the pads have a smell to em..and that smell/taste comes through in the beer... it tastes "paper" like.
Also...the fellow at the brewshop told me he cuts these disks himself from bigger "real brewery" sheets.... maybe they use something to cut them that comes through?

What is his definition for real brewery sheets?
Waste water filter sheets
The pads should not impact your beer unless those sheets are not made for filtering beer.

Where do you get your pads?

Austin Homebrew

Do u do anything to prep those pads? Soak them? Rinse them?

The filter housing including the pads get sanitized for 15 minutes with SaniClean, then blown out with CO2.
The first ounces of beer are discarded.

Cheers,
ClaudiusB

 

[RickyLopez]

Very helpful....so you run sanitizer for 15 min thriugh the whole system? Ok...I need to try that

 

[badbrew]

I'm not sure if that's it... the pads have a smell to em..and that smell/taste comes through in the beer... it tastes "paper" like.

Do u do anything to prep those pads? Soak them? Rinse them? Also...the fellow at the brewshop told me he cuts these disks himself from bigger "real brewery" sheets.... maybe they use something to cut them that comes through? Where do you get your pads?

buy some online and compare

 

[Buna_Bere]

I've used the coarse plate filter pads from Williams Brewing, and Northern Brewer, and I've never noticed any papery taste. I've never had a beer judge mention papery either. I don't soak the pads, I push starsan through the whole setup without the pads, and let it sit for a minute with the starsan in the lines. Then push all the starsan out with CO2. Then I put the pads in and flush the whole setup with just CO2 again, no starsan. Make sure you purge all your kegs with CO2 before you transfer into them. If you can transfer the finished beer under CO2 pressure even better.

 

[RickyLopez]

If you can transfer the finished beer under CO2 pressure even better.

if i can transfer under co2 pressure? as opposed to???

 

[ClaudiusB]

if i can transfer under co2 pressure? as opposed to???

Maybe he is talking counter pressure transfer, my process.
My beer has CO2 in the solution after lagering, the receiving tank is pressurized just below the filter pressure to prevent foaming in the tank and out-gassing at the 1 micron pads.
Once the CO2 comes out of the solution the filtering process will take hours, purging, and re-pressurizing the 1micron housing is required to recover.
I messed up on purpose to get some pictures, never again

Perfect

Foam coming out of the 1 micron pad, no counter pressure.

Recovering process

Almost 100% recovered

Cheers,
ClaudiusB

 

[Buna_Bere]

I just meant when you go from your primary fermentation vessel(better bottle is what I use), rather than gravity feed to your first keg, push the beer out with a little CO2 pressure, avoiding any oxidation at all by keeping the headspace full of CO2. Claudius makes a good point about the off-gassing through the filter pads. I only use the coarse pads, but if I keep just a little pressure on the recieving keg, it keeps the CO2 from breaking out as it passes through the pads. I just close the recieving keg and put a gas quick connect on, and that seems to work much better than just keeping the lid open.

 

[RickyLopez]

I just meant when you go from your primary fermentation vessel(better bottle is what I use), rather than gravity feed to your first keg, push the beer out with a little CO2 pressure, avoiding any oxidation at all by keeping the headspace full of CO2..

im still a bit lost...(ive only been brewing for 2 months, so im still unfamiliar with a lot of this)

how am i supposed to push beer out of my primary (i use better bottle too) with gas??? i usually just use a siphon.... how can i connect gas to a better bottle????

 

[Buna_Bere]

Here's how I do it

I'm only putting 1 or 2 psi on this max, maybe even less, I just crack the CO2 valve and then close it. Just to create a little pressure in the headspace and keep it full of CO2. The parts are 1/4" gas line, drilled out bung, and the bottom of an airlock. I just push the gas line in the airlock and it holds just fine. The whole point of this is trying to keep the oxidation as low as possible with every transfer.

 

[RickyLopez]

Genius! Wow....... thanks a million....really.... I would have never thought of that