FreeM80s
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also, a late hit is not a late hit unless its on prettyboy Brady. How many rule changes have been made in the last 7 years to make sure Brady dosent get hurt? that is the stat I want to know more about...
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No more than what has been made for the f'in pansy Colts players... people seem to have selective memories about the Pats. Everyone seems to forgot Bill Polian having a crying hissy-fit to the league back a few years ago when the Pats secondary ws putting the Colts WRs on their azzes.
Brady never cryed to the league. He got hurt. Period. End of conversation. The league took it upon themselves to then make up the no-hitting-the-knees rule.
And here's your stat: 0. It had nothing to do with Brady specifically. He was just an example of a QB that got hurt by a specific type of play...which they then went back and made a rule against.
there... no you know more about it.
Brady never cryed to the league. He got hurt. Period. End of conversation. The league took it upon themselves to then make up the no-hitting-the-knees rule.
And here's your stat: 0. It had nothing to do with Brady specifically. He was just an example of a QB that got hurt by a specific type of play...which they then went back and made a rule against.
there... no you know more about it.
FreeM80s
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uhhhhh:
you tell me that pointing at the legs and then fist pumping like he's on jersey shore ain't whining to the league.
"Oh but they call those rules for everyone" you say:
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So that's whining to the LEAGUE? Tom Brady is saying 'HEY.. NFL!! Make a rule for me!"
That's your argument? That's what this video shows?
really?
That's your argument? That's what this video shows?
really?
FreeM80s
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Yea, pretty much. They made the rule for him, and they only call it for him. They even reach for their flag when he tells them to. The video shows that. If it looks like a duck, and whines for a flag like a duck...
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LOL... ok.. so Brady blew out his knee and what? Called the league while he was rehabbing "Hey Rog'... it's Tommy... listen... I need a new rule here. Make it just for me and don't call it for everyone else"
And the league made the rule... for HIM...
And now... unlike every WR in the league who IMMEDIATELY turns around on every single broken up play motioning for the refs to toss a pass-interference flag... BRADY has the ability to actually influence the refs and they throw a flag for him when he asks for it.
LOL!!!
It is nice in your little world?
FreeM80s
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did they make the rule when carson palmer blew out his knee THE EXACT same way? No. And marvin lewis is on the the rules committee. ok, so, no brady himself probably did not call, you are eating mushrooms if you dont think bob kraft or belichick or stuart fry was on the horn the second that MRI came back...
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Sooo... Carson Palmer blows out his knee.. then Brady... and your theory is that Bob Kraft or someone called the league and said, "Hey... we can't have these marque players get hurt like this, let's make a rule"
... and then enough representatives from OTHER teams... agreed, a rule was drafted and then enacted...
... so that makes BRADY some kind of pansy who has rules made for him and can get a flag whenever he wants.
I'm still struggling to see how this is Brady's fault and how you can be so incredibly bitter about him.
The guy had his knee blown out... the league made a rule to try to protect ALL QBs from the type of hit that blew his knee out... and this is Brady's FAULT somehow??
... and then enough representatives from OTHER teams... agreed, a rule was drafted and then enacted...
... so that makes BRADY some kind of pansy who has rules made for him and can get a flag whenever he wants.
I'm still struggling to see how this is Brady's fault and how you can be so incredibly bitter about him.
The guy had his knee blown out... the league made a rule to try to protect ALL QBs from the type of hit that blew his knee out... and this is Brady's FAULT somehow??
FreeM80s
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exactly.
Brady is the star among stars. he's the poster child for the NFL. I dont think its outside the realm of possibility for them to make a rule just for him and only call it for him. 3 weeks ago the refs lost their whistles when Favre was getting knocked around. did you see him getting up and begging for a flag AND getting one? no. Even after a diving blow to the legs. A LA THE BRADY RULE. I can understand you taking up for him, you're a homer. thats cool. But the people not drinking the pats kool-aid see it in another light.
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Thank you... now I don't even have to respond anymore
motobrewer
I'm no atheist scientist, but...
you guys are all on crack.
nobody gives a sh*t about brady. poster child of the NFL? The only thing I heard or saw about brady this year was when i watched that family guy episode where he's in it.
give me a break
and the refs throw (threw? ) just as many questionable flags on favre's behalf. or manning's....or.....EVERY OTHER QB IN THE F-ING LEAGUE!
nobody gives a sh*t about brady. poster child of the NFL? The only thing I heard or saw about brady this year was when i watched that family guy episode where he's in it.
give me a break
and the refs throw (threw?
) just as many questionable flags on favre's behalf. or manning's....or.....EVERY OTHER QB IN THE F-ING LEAGUE!
ezboarderz
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you guys are all on crack.
nobody gives a sh*t about brady. poster child of the NFL? The only thing I heard or saw about brady this year was when i watched that family guy episode where he's in it.
give me a break
and the refs throw (threw?
except my homiue romo would get hit low or on the helmet and no flag would ever be thrown. Tom Brady needs to stop wining and play some damn football
babalu87
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Rule was in place before Brady got hurt.
Nobody is paying $100/ticket to watch back up QB's
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FreeM80s
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The rule was amended with a stipulation giving the ref's the ability to make a "judgment" call. judgment calls that give 15 yard penalties and a fresh set of downs change the course of the game. THE REFS SHOULD REF AND NOT AFFECT THE ACTUAL GAME. Tim Donaghy is a good example of why this is important.
That's just moronic. You want to watch a sport where no one gets hurt, watch golf. But since you just want to watch Tom chuck touchdowns to Randy all day, just go to a preseason practice. Does everyone in new england really think brady walks on water? why is everyone so adamant about defending him? its just baffling...
Do you seriously expect the refs to not exercise any judgement in when to call flags? Really? 'Cause that's kinda what every official, in every sport, does to one degree or another. Refs decide when incidental contract is pass interference. Refs decide how much holding is too much. Umpires decide balls and strikes. Basketball refs use their judgement in assessing personal fouls, blocking versus charging calls, etc.
You REALLY don't think the league wants to protect Drew Brees and Peyton Manning and every other good QB in the league? You really think the league's incentive is to protect the New England Patriots SPECIFICALLY, and not all of the league's star quarterbacks? The guys that are on the other fifteen games each weekend that the league wants to sell out and to have huge TV ratings on?
Seriously, why do people seem to think that the New England Patriots are somehow worthy of being granted special protections? Why would the League care if the Patriots do well, instead of any of the other teams that are also in major media markets? I don't get that...
You REALLY don't think the league wants to protect Drew Brees and Peyton Manning and every other good QB in the league? You really think the league's incentive is to protect the New England Patriots SPECIFICALLY, and not all of the league's star quarterbacks? The guys that are on the other fifteen games each weekend that the league wants to sell out and to have huge TV ratings on?
Seriously, why do people seem to think that the New England Patriots are somehow worthy of being granted special protections? Why would the League care if the Patriots do well, instead of any of the other teams that are also in major media markets? I don't get that...
babalu87
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ALL NFL penalty calls are judgement calls, there is no black and white only grey.
Stoplights affect traffic, refs affect games.................. BECAUSE OF RULES
Walks on water, no but name me a list of other quarterbacks who have helped their teams win three Superbowls and then tell me what the general public thinks of those players. Maybe then you'll understand.
Bottom line, nobody wants QB's to get hurt it takes away from the game and that is why they are the most protected players on the field.
Golfers get hurt pretty regularly for playing in a no contact sport:
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-1263392.html
FreeM80s
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I understand that most calls are judgment calls, I just dont like it when the ref's judgment is influenced by anything other that the actual event. Someone dives for bradys knees, you dont pull the flag. brady waves for a flag, he gets one. yes, i have a problem with that. The same problem i have with tickytack calls like PI and hitting someone out of bounds. You hit someone out of bounds on your own sideline= no commotion= no flag. Hit someone out on THEIR sideline= big commotion= flag. In what world does that make sense. For the record, I have a problem with ANYONE who is shown favorable treatment by any ref in any sport. INCLUDING but not limited to: Brady, Manning(s), Brees, etc. The reasons I believe the pats get special treatment are: The tuck rule and the Brady rules. Until you can show me specific examples of how other teams get this kind of leeway, i will continue to believe this.
FreeM80s
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illegal procedure is not a judgment call. 12 men on the field is not a judgment call. explain.
babalu87
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OK most NFL pelaties are judgement calls.
12 men on the field is wishy washy, I've seen it called with the guy having one foot on the field, technically he is out of bounds and not on the field of play.
Colts get more pass interference calls in their favor than any other team.
Colts are called for holding (O-line) less than any other team.
adx
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Did you ever think that maybe Manning is really good at placing a pass just short so the receiver that comes back and get the call. Or maybe their O-line works extra hard to NOT hold. Sticking with the Colts, just think of all the times Freeney has been held coming off the end and it's never called.
Also, the rule wasn't created for Brady. It *was* done after the '05 season when Carson Palmer was taken out at the knees in the playoffs. The rule was amended last year so that it must be called now no matter how the defensive player gets below the knee. Before it was a judgment call if the defensive player was pushed into the QB.
Guess the League must be doing everything they can to protect the Cincinnatti Bengals frachise.
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blah blah blah... this is a huge steaming pile of bullsh!t.
Like I said earlier... look at every single f'in wide receiver in the NFL and how often they call for a pass interference penalties... and get them.
Saying Brady gets special treatment is just plain freakin retahdid.
FreeM80s
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thinking big dog teams DONT get special treatment is whats retarded. Its rampant in football. Look at the SEC conference. Look at the Texas-Nebraska big 12 champ game. Its rampant in other sports. Look at LeBron James in the NBA. Sidney Crosby in the NHL. They all get calls B-list players DO NOT get. You're a myopic fool if you think otherwise
adx
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No the issue is that bad calls are rampant in EVERY game. The problem is all you ever see is SEC football, the Pats/Colts/Steelers/Giants, the Big 12 games, and LeBron, because those are the games people want to watch on TV. You're not going to get a Seahawks/Brown game on Monday night so you won't see the crappy calls in that game.
babalu87
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dunnright00
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I'm as much a Brady-Hater as anyone, but if you look at any of those calls, you can see the ref is reaching for the flag before Brady even looks at him.
I agree that there probably is some bias towards some players and teams, but to say that there is an outright league-wide policy to protect a certain player is a bit of a stretch.
Ugh, I'm siding with Cape, bablu and Bird. I feel so dirty!!
FreeM80s
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really? looks like his hand isn't reaching for anything until brady points, then fist pumps in all his pansy skirt wearing happiness...
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babalu87
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Weak ****
The ref is clearly reaching for the flag AS Brady is motioning towards him.
Stop
With
The
Hate
Its really unflattering.
yea, I go G-Men all the way. More than that, as a New Yorker, I genetically have to hate all things Boston...
but there is no Brady-is-God conspiracy in the NFL. sure some players get more leeway than others, it happens in all sports. Look at Shaq in the NBA. but there is no underground initiation ceremony where a bunch of refs in togas strip down the newest member of the group, flog him, and make him swear to Brady the God of Passing that no harm shall come to him.
but there is no Brady-is-God conspiracy in the NFL. sure some players get more leeway than others, it happens in all sports. Look at Shaq in the NBA. but there is no underground initiation ceremony where a bunch of refs in togas strip down the newest member of the group, flog him, and make him swear to Brady the God of Passing that no harm shall come to him.
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