Obnoxious Football Trash Talk Thread

[WI_Wino]

Shhh. Tryin' to get most convenient flight times in and out of Houston

You don't have your own jet? Must suck to be poor.

 

[stratslinger]

You'd think he could take the Bog Iron corporate jet, right?

 

[Cape Brewing]

Bog Iron 1 is in for maintenance and Bog Iron 2 was already freakin booked. Biz partner is going to Belize for a freakin week and a half.

Was going to go with a charter but screw it, I was able to get convenient commercial flights. First class obviously.

 

[Paps]

Don't let him fool you.
He's hitchiking there.

 

[TheDudeLebowski]

Dont you have a connection to a mead mogul you could cash in?

 

[Cape Brewing]

If you mean Moonlight... no, I don't know Michael personally... my biz pahtna does though.

 

[Cape Brewing]

Joking aside.... it's insane how cheap tix are (relatively speaking). I bet there will be face value tix on the ground before the game.

 

[GenIke]

Best probowl ever? I say yes.

 

[day_trippr]

 

[bob1852]

Bog Iron 1 is in for maintenance and Bog Iron 2 was already freakin booked. Biz partner is going to Belize for a freakin week and a half.

Was going to go with a charter but screw it, I was able to get convenient commercial flights. First class obviously.

Bog 2 is going to the Breck, I thought.

If you mean Moonlight... no, I don't know Michael personally... my biz pahtna does though.

****, even I know him personally....

 

[Cape Brewing]

No one cares

 

[Cape Brewing]

Psyched... scored great seats. I wonder if Aaron Rodgers will be sitting near me.

 

[HoppyDaze]

Shhh. Tryin' to get most convenient flight times in and out of Houston

No one is impressed by you going to a corporate circle jerk in Houston, Texas.

 

[Cape Brewing]

So jelly

 

[Kampenken]

Yo Patsies )) another serious Q in your trash talking thread....

Kraft was asked the other day, "who is more to credit for the team's success, Belichek or Brady". Clearly it is a great pairing, but he answered Belichek. I agree (if for nothing else, there is Garapolo and Cassel as successful replacement examples to support).

So, how about you guys? (hoping to stir up some internal dissent amongst you fans right before the SB!).

Cheers!

 

[Cape Brewing]

I don't think it's an "either or"... I think they have had an amount of success that the league has never really seen. That's not trash talk... it's fact.

Without Brady... they don't get there. Without Belichick... they don't get there.

 

[Cape Brewing]

If you held a gun to my head and made me pick one, I would say Belichick because he's the architect of the entire team and is involved with every aspect of what the team does.

But like I said... without Brady, he doesn't get there.

 

[stratslinger]

Without Belichick, the Pats could likely have Brady and the equivalent of the New England Browns... Brady's the GOAT, no doubt. But without a GM and coach like Belichick to choose and then cultivate talent across the board, Brady could be a better pre-Magic version of an NFL Lebron. All the talent, none of the support for continued success for the organization as a whole... Lebron couldn't carry his team to a championship single handed, and doing the same in the NFL single handed - and repeatedly at that - is even closer to impossible. Hell, on the same analogy - Jordan never did it single handed either, or for as long, though he had a penchant for taking over games. But to go the whole way, he needed some amount of help.

 

[bob1852]

If you held a gun to my head

You're gonna get banned again.

 

[Kampenken]

Let's assume Belichick (who knew the spelling was of a baby chicken, huh??!) is able to hold his job while finding "another" Brady (possibly Beldsoe is able to win regularly for a few years, even if not a SB). Along comes Cassel, he goes 11-5 (and my Dolphins win the division and knock out the Pats, that was great!), you don't think Cassel could win it? What about Garapolo? I know its small sample size, but still it does appear system helps (not knocking Brady mind you)

 

[Cape Brewing]

You're gonna get banned again.

Wouldnt be freakin shocked

 

[Cape Brewing]

Let's assume Belichick (who knew the spelling was of a baby chicken, huh??!) is able to hold his job while finding "another" Brady (possibly Beldsoe is able to win regularly for a few years, even if not a SB). Along comes Cassel, he goes 11-5 (and my Dolphins win the division and knock out the Pats, that was great!), you don't think Cassel could win it? What about Garapolo? I know its small sample size, but still it does appear system helps (not knocking Brady mind you)

Like I was saying, yes, I think he still has a lot of success.... but not the level they have reached

They way you're putting it, you're suggesting Brady is interchangeable with some other QB and that QB would be incredible under Belichick's system.

And that's crazy talk

Brady's not only special because of his play on the field but for how involved he is with game planning, culture, etc with Belichick

 

[Cape Brewing]

And sorry... no... i don't think Cassel would win it

 

[Cape Brewing]

Let's assume Belichick (who knew the spelling was of a baby chicken, huh??!) is able to hold his job while finding "another" Brady (possibly Beldsoe is able to win regularly for a few years, even if not a SB). Along comes Cassel, he goes 11-5 (and my Dolphins win the division and knock out the Pats, that was great!), you don't think Cassel could win it? What about Garapolo? I know its small sample size, but still it does appear system helps (not knocking Brady mind you)

The biggest thing with Brady, that most fans of other teams don't realize, is how complex the Pats' offense is and how it all funnels through Brady. The receivers typically have three, sometimes four, different routes called for each play and they run them depending on what the defense does once they get to the line and once the ball is snapped. That's why WR's like Chad Ochocinco, and Joey Galloway, etc etc washed out of the offense... they couldn't get the offense.

If the D lines up in a certain formation and then the safety does this.... the wr should run X route.... and Brady has been doing it so long that he knows all of it... knows where his mismatches are... and puts the ball where the guy should be.

Which... on occasion, when he tosses an incomplete pass, you'll see him lose his shti... because the WR ran the wrong route or he threw it to the wrong route.

There isn't another QB in the league that can do what he does like he does it.

Aaron Rodgers throws a freakin gorgeous pass and is a great QB in a different way.... but couldn't do what Brady does.

 

[bob1852]

And sorry... no... i don't think Cassel would win it

Blake Bortles!

 

[Kampenken]

I certainly don't watch many Pats games (obnoxious alert- cheaters; ref favoritism- tuck this!) so I will take your word for it, but I do think this is not unique to the Pats per se, I mean you really can't believe only they plan that way do you? Additionally, you had success with the two I mentioned, but they neither had exposure to the playoffs, no fault of their own. Maybe they ran it well, but like Wentz in Philly this year, maybe it was just a matter of time until D's would catch up to them, but maybe not?? Ok, this totally is beginning to sound like a diss on Brady, its not. Maybe a little. I actually hope you're correct and I stop looking up the AFC East standings. Its been a hell of an impressive run.

 

[Cape Brewing]

Who said the Pats are the only team that plans that way?

 

[paulthenurse]

Working hard today, Cape?

 

[Kampenken]

Ok, maybe not verbatim, I implied that from "The biggest thing with Brady, that most fans of other teams don't realize, is how complex the Pats' offense is and how it all funnels through Brady"

 

[Cape Brewing]

Brewing a Dunkel.... its light lifting