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[bradsul]

'Kay I'll do it. :rockin:

I'll get the Turkey fryer with pot for the boils. Then I need a 5 gallon Igloo cooler? Don't I need a false bottom or something? Is the ordinary spigot good enough or do I need to drill any other holes. A termometer? Anything else?

I'll give the EHG a shout I've been on their website but there isn't a lot of resources there.

Thanks

Rudeboy

Check out FlyGuy's signature for instructions on building a cheap mash tun. You will also want a wort chiller of some sort if you do not have one already. An immersion chiller is the easiest/cheapest way to go about that. A good thermometer is definitely a must.

Also depending upon your LHBS you may or may not need some way to crush your grains. If your LHBS can do this for you, no worries. Otherwise a cheap corona-style mill is the best option.

 

[Rudeboy]

So do I need a MLT and an HLT?

Rudeboy

 

[bradsul]

So do I need a MLT and an HLT?

You only need an HLT if you're planning to fly sparge. I would suggest when you first start out that batch sparging would be the best bet (indeed you never need to move from that if you don't want to).

 

[crown_cres]

try dans in vancouver i had a $85 order shipping was $13 and i got it in 3 days has liquid yeast , whole hops really great place his website is www.beermaking.ca
try http://www.askims.com/ in victoria the only place i know to get white labs in western canada they also have alot more.

i personaly find dme is verry expensive in canada i go to my local uvin shop and buy lme for $5.40 a littre or $1.85 a pound thats the only thing i buy locally because it a great deal and fresh

 

[Rudeboy]

try dans in vancouver i had a $85 order shipping was $13 and i got it in 3 days has liquid yeast , whole hops really great place his website is www.beermaking.ca

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. That's exactly what I was looking for.

I built a little spreadsheet so I could figure out what the cost of DME in Canadian Dollars, delivered to me. Cheapest I could get was $4.43 per pound from morebeer.com if I got a 44 lbs. sack. I'm paying $6.80 per pound at my LHBS.

Dan's Homebrewing $1.85 per pound (still to add shipping)

Now extract brewing makes economic sense.

I suspect I'll go AG eventually but at least now I have a middle ground.

Thanks Crown Cres

Rudeboy

 

[boo boo]

I've had good results with the Barrons kits. My current brew is a modified kit. They're sort of a hybrid between a full wort and extract. I don't taste any "extract" like, or scorched flavours, and the kits are no-boil. I used to be a member of EHG, but had to leave because of job demands. I highly recommend the group. You can get lots of experience, and they actively promote group/buddy brewing. They have a yearly hops order, and will often buy grain in bulk. The brewers consistently perform well at national and international competitions as well.

Although you seem to have your problem solved, you'll eventually
make your way to the Dark side, lol.

I had good results from the Barrons kits also. Never had any luck with the
Brew House kits.
But all grain is the way to go. Cheap, and I find it makes a better brew
than I was used to making with extract. Sucks sometimes living on this
side of the country with shipping and not a selection of ingredients
that anyone could call resonably priced. But I am able to find everything
I need from all the various HB shops here in Canada, without resorting
to much cross border shopping.

 

[hnefatafl]

I've been going to Dan's in Vancouver since I got back into homebrewing, and have found just about everything I've needed. He doesn't carry DME though, so I have to go elsewhere for that.

He DOES carry corny kegs as well, at $45 ea. I've got 8 now, and plan on a few more. Luckily I'm a short drive away, so I don't know what his shipping is like.

 

[hnefatafl]

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. That's exactly what I was looking for.

I built a little spreadsheet so I could figure out what the cost of DME in Canadian Dollars, delivered to me. Cheapest I could get was $4.43 per pound from morebeer.com if I got a 44 lbs. sack. I'm paying $6.80 per pound at my LHBS.

Just a warning Rudeboy, unless you've already called Dan. He doesn't carry DME, it's all LME.

 

[Rudeboy]

Just a warning Rudeboy, unless you've already called Dan. He doesn't carry DME, it's all LME.

Ya I eventually got that. Still cheap comparatively. What is it with Canada and DME?

Still I should be able to convert any recipe. I remember a thread that had a conversion ratio for DME to LME to Grain. Now where was that...

As to an other part of the fray I contacted EHG and will be attending their first meeting on September 7th. Which I suspect will push me further down the AG route.

On a side note I was wanting to start an other thread, but now I have all the Canadians listening....

Does anyone have clone recipes for Big Rock beers? What I really want is their Magpie Rye Ale which for some reason they seem to have stopped brewing. But I'd also like their Traditional Ale (which Micheal Jackson once rated as one of the 13 best beers in the world). As I was typing this I also thought their Grasshopper Wheat Ale would be good for next summer....

So to sum, any recipe, for any of their beers would be good.

Thanks

Rudeboy

 

[bradsul]

Ya I eventually got that. Still cheap comparatively. What is it with Canada and DME?

Still I should be able to convert any recipe. I remember a thread that had a conversion ratio for DME to LME to Grain. Now where was that...

Use about 80% of the DME that you would for LME.

It's funny you mention about DME availability. ALL I can get is DME. All the LME I ever see is in a pre-hopped kit. Not that I really care since switching to all grain, all I use DME for is starters now.

 

[FlyGuy]

Ya I eventually got that. Still cheap comparatively. What is it with Canada and DME?

I think that no-boil, pre-hopped wort kits have taken over Canada. AG brewers might be the last ones to hold out. Relatively speaking, malt extract has become pretty expensive up here, and the no-boil kits are really easy to make and high quality, so I am not surprised.

I suspect the only places you can get malt extract reasonably fresh and cheap are the provinces that have brew-on-premises establishments, like BC or Ontario. Brad, did you say you get your supplies from a BOP establishment? If so, they probably move a lot of DME.

On a side note I was wanting to start an other thread, but now I have all the Canadians listening....

Does anyone have clone recipes for Big Rock beers? What I really want is their Magpie Rye Ale which for some reason they seem to have stopped brewing. But I'd also like their Traditional Ale (which Micheal Jackson once rated as one of the 13 best beers in the world). As I was typing this I also thought their Grasshopper Wheat Ale would be good for next summer....

I haven't seen any Big Rock clones. Sorry. But if you EVER come across a Magpie recipe, I would love to have it. That used to my favourite Big Rock beer. I really wish they hadn't stopped brewing it.

 

[bradsul]

...Brad, did you say you get your supplies from a BOP establishment? If so, they probably move a lot of DME...

Now that you mention it I think they use LME. In one corner of the brewery they have a rack with a couple of those huge food grade barrels with spigots; I bet that is LME. I never really clued in because I was already into AG when I started going there.

What does this magpie rye taste like? I'm drinking my first rye ale recipe now (see recipe dropdown for details) and I really like what the rye gives the beer. I'd love to know what some other rye ales taste like so I can come up with more recipes. I've never seen a single rye beer at LCBO or The Beer Store.

 

[boo boo]

Have you tried your local pepsi/coke bottler to see if they will sell used
corny kegs?
That's where I got most of mine last couple of years. I paid $23 each and just had to buy new O rings and give them a good scrubbing.
You can get new kegs from Simgo in Ottawa, although they are expensive.

 

[FlyGuy]

Now that you mention it I think they use LME. In one corner of the brewery they have a rack with a couple of those huge food grade barrels with spigots; I bet that is LME. I never really clued in because I was already into AG when I started going there.

I used to use a BOP place in Ottawa when I lived there. They used DME, so that's what I was basing my guess on. But those big barrels do sound like they hold LME.

What does this magpie rye taste like? I'm drinking my first rye ale recipe now (see recipe dropdown for details) and I really like what the rye gives the beer. I'd love to know what some other rye ales taste like so I can come up with more recipes. I've never seen a single rye beer at LCBO or The Beer Store.

It has been many years since I have had a magpie rye, so I am basing this on a distant memory. It was basically a pale ale, probably more towards the English style, but it had a very characteristic flavour that you can only get from rye. I think I might actually try a rye pale ale in my next batch. I bought some malted and flaked rye a while ago, but never got around to using it. Time to dig it out!

 

[Charbucks]

I recently ordered some stuff from http://www.homebrewersretail.com and the guy running the place is super nice. They just opened, so there's limited supplies, but it seems like he's trying really hard to make sure people are happy, so I figure he's going to get more stock in soon.

 

[Rudeboy]

It has been many years since I have had a magpie rye, so I am basing this on a distant memory. It was basically a pale ale, probably more towards the English style, but it had a very characteristic flavour that you can only get from rye.

That's the stuff. Nice, although you wouldn't want to sit down and drink 6 of them. But a nice kinda change of pace beer.

Good beer, good name, great label. I still see plenty of posters for it about. Maybe we should start agitateing Ed to start brewing it again.


Rudeboy