Mistaken Recipe Order

[WSURaider41]

Ok, so here's my story.

I was excited to create my first recipe. I ordered the supplies from Austin Homebrew Supply like I usually do.

Here is the recipe...

Partial Mash
5 gal

3.0lb Light DME
4.0lb Pale 2-row
1.0lb 40L Crystal
1.0lb Munich

Here is what I accidentally ordered, already milled and put together in a grain bill. The items arrived today and I didn't realized I had ordered this.

3.0lb Light DME
8.5lb Pale 2-row
1.0lb 40L Crystal
1.0lb Munich


Any suggestions on what I can do? Since the grains were all milled and placed into a bag I can't separate them out. I need suggestions.

Help!

 

[wonderbread23]

Bump up your hop additions, and make an 'imperial' version of what you were making.

 

[WSURaider41]

Bump them up in time and just leave everything else the way it is?

 

[rod734]

Mash the grain and save the DME. If the OG is low you can use some of the DME, if it's high add some water.

 

[Chrisl77]

I think he means increase the amounts of your hops. What kind of yeast and hops are you using?

 

[WSURaider41]

1 oz Northern Brewer at 60 min
1 oz Cascade at 30 min
1 oz Glacier at 15 min
1 oz Cascade at Flameout

White Labs California Ale Yeast

 

[WSURaider41]

Mash the grain and save the DME. If the OG is low you can use some of the DME, if it's high add some water.

Would this essentially make it an AG as opposed to a Partial Mash?

 

[rod734]

Mash the grain and save the DME. If the OG is low you can use some of the DME, if it's high add some water.

I ran it through beer-calc and just the grain at 5 gal. batch will give a 1.054 OG.

 

[justins2582]

Mash the grain and save the DME. If the OG is low you can use some of the DME, if it's high add some water.

I agree...Perfect chance to try out all-grain!

 

[WSURaider41]

Ok, I was originally going to do DeathBrewer's Partial Mash technique... is there anything similar for AG? I am still relatively new to brewing and this would have been my first Partial Mash recipe, let alone my first personally made recipe.

 

[NyPDFustercluck]

Check out deathbrewers other thread on easy stovetop all grain. The answer to your question is basically yes, how big is your kettle? You'll need to be able to boil ~7 gallons or so for that much grain
+1 to just mashing your grain and correcting og as necessary with your DME

 

[Chrisl77]

I would agree with the others you have more than enough 2-row use some of the dme to make a starter and just do an all grain. How big of a pot do you have if you do an all grain 5 gal batch you will need to do a full boil of atleast 6 gallons.

 

[rod734]

Would this essentially make it an AG as opposed to a Partial Mash?

yes

 

[WSURaider41]

I have 2, 5 gal pots

 

[WSURaider41]

Any suggestions on what I can do with only 2, 5 gallon pots? Since I won't be able to get a full 6-7 gallon boil going?

 

[rod734]

Ok, I was originally going to do DeathBrewer's Partial Mash technique... is there anything similar for AG? I am still relatively new to brewing and this would have been my first Partial Mash recipe, let alone my first personally made recipe.

If your kettle is big enough for a full boil just heat about 15 quarts of water to about 165F and put your bag of grain in. You will want to mash around 150 degrees F for at least 60 min. 90 min. would probably be better. Untie your grain bag so you can stir it to get rid of all the doeballs. After you have mashed for your time remove the bag of grain and put it in another kettle of same temp water for about 30 min. and start your boil on the first kettle. after your second mash you can set the bag in a collander over the kettle and rinse with some 170 degree F water, don't sqweeze the bag. You can add all your wort together and do your boil you will need 6 gal. maybe a little more for 5 gal. after boil.
I can't do a full boil in the kitchen so I use two pots to boil in and combine them. It changes my hop utilization a little but it has always worked ok for me.

 

[WSURaider41]

If I go ahead and use both pots and do separate boils, how do I go about placing the hops? 1/2 oz per addition in each pot? I don't think I have a pot big enough for a full boil.

 

[rod734]

I have always put all my hops in the first kettle.
By the time I get my first boil cooled in the sink with cold water and ice, my second boil is about ready to cool. I go ahead and pour my first kettle in the fermenter and pitch my yeast. Be sure and stir up some bubbles to oxygenate the wort. When the second boil is cooled pour it in and top off to wanted volume with water.

 

[WSURaider41]

Ok awesome! I really appreciate all your help. I think this is what I'm going to go ahead and try out. Hopefully this turns out alright. If not, at least I learned to pay more attention to my cart before I hit the Checkout button

 

[beninan]

If I go ahead and use both pots and do separate boils, how do I go about placing the hops? 1/2 oz per addition in each pot? I don't think I have a pot big enough for a full boil.

Thats exactly what I do. I do all grain, and boil the batch in 2, 6 gallon pots, and split all the hop additions evenly between the two pots.

So if you have 7 gallons pre-boil, you will have two pots of 3.5 gallons. If you are only doing a 1 oz hop addition for 1 hour, each pot gets 1/2 oz.

 

[jwplessner]

If you don't have extra hops to account for the loss of utilization in a partial boil--that is, if you choose the separate boil--you at least get the pleasure of pushing the pot's capacity. Looks like that grain can fit into your pot with a 1.25 lb/qt ratio, with some room to spare (takes about 4.12 gal per the rackers' calculator).

http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml

 

[WSURaider41]

If you don't have extra hops to account for the loss of utilization in a partial boil--that is, if you choose the separate boil--you at least get the pleasure of pushing the pot's capacity. Looks like that grain can fit into your pot with a 1.25 lb/qt ratio, with some room to spare (takes about 4.12 gal per the rackers' calculator).

http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml

Not quite sure I followed the hops part. I have the proper amount of hops I was looking for in my partial mash recipe. Now that I'll be doing AG I reworked my recipe and according to BeerSmith my IBU's will actually be .2IBU above the upper limit of the style, which I am great with.

 

[beninan]

If your IBUs were initially calculated for a partial boil volume, then doing a full boil volume will get you more hop utilization. If you are ok with the increase in hops, I'd say to just brew it up and call it a success.

 

[lumpher]

without the dme, that would make a good apa. hoppy (around 57), but if you like hops, then it might be what you want