Let's Remember Some Beers (In Memoriam: Old Whales)

[bramsdell]

Eh. It’s good now. Not so sure about back then.

Those og Weisses were pretty darn good.

 

[BeersMorgan]

Those og Weisses were pretty darn good.

True, Mainer has never been as good as batch 1

 

[user 306349]

True, Mainer has never been as good as batch 1

I had a bottle that tasted like shrimp and cinnamon, then another bottle that was outstanding

 

[BeersMorgan]

I had a bottle that tasted like shrimp and cinnamon, then another bottle that was outstanding

Thankfully I never got any shrimp bottles, but I do love that oxbow beer with lobster I can never spell so maybe it could be ok?

 

[tennispl]

Thankfully I never got any shrimp bottles, but I do love that oxbow beer with lobster I can never spell so maybe it could be ok?

Saison dell aragosta. If they ever remake that I will need a case. Loved that beer.

 

[JCastle1]

I had a bottle that tasted like shrimp and cinnamon, then another bottle that was outstanding

They used to be extremely inconsistent. I always hated the pale ales back then cause you never knew if you had a decent one or a ****** one. I had a Sommer Weisse that tasted like malt vinegar and old Thai food one time.

 

[tehzachatak]

Saison dell aragosta. If they ever remake that I will need a case. Loved that beer.

2018 batch of Dellaragosta just came out, get you to maine

 

[tehzachatak]

They used to be extremely inconsistent. I always hated the pale ales back then cause you never knew if you had a decent one or a ****** one. I had a Sommer Weisse that tasted like malt vinegar and old Thai food one time.

Yeah, this. The really good bottles of Ever Weiss and Mainer Weisse were amazing, but a full 40% of what I had was usually trash

 

[cbeer881]

Eh. It’s good now. Not so sure about back then.

I was in a generous mood.

 

[tennispl]

2018 batch of Dellaragosta just came out, get you to maine

Well that’s convenient! I’m a man of my word, if anyone can hook me up with some let me know.

 

[jtclockwork]

I love old beer, especially lambic but also stuff like Thomas Hardy Ale or old Belgian beers. For the most part, this stuff flies under the radar these days [unless it's Drie or Cantillon for lambic or a particular "whale"]. It's strange times when you can buy two 750ml bottles of 1940s lambic that is still drinking great for less than the cost of a can of Tree House Juice Machine.

 

[abawol01]

It's strange times when you can buy two 750ml bottles of 1940s lambic that is still drinking great...

I can't being to explain how ******* triggered I am by this part of your post.

 

[stupac2]

I can't being to explain how ******* triggered I am by this part of your post.

Yeah, where the **** is dude getting 70-year-old lambic for the cost of a ******* can?

 

[cbeer881]

Yeah, where the **** is dude getting 70-year-old lambic for the cost of a ******* can?

If you can get me two bottles of 1940’s lambic I’ll sit outside Tree House with a Halloween costume of your choice.

 

[jtclockwork]

I can't being to explain how ******* triggered I am by this part of your post.

You can get 1940s/50s lambic for about $50 a bottle. Juice Machine is selling over $100 a can secondary. I was talking secondary prices not retail.

 

[stupac2]

You can get 1940s/50s lambic for about $50 a bottle. Juice Machine is selling over $100 a can secondary. I was talking secondary prices not retail.

I can? How can I do this? I would be interested in doing it.

 

[FTowne1]

You can get 1940s/50s lambic for about $50 a bottle.

 

[Espeer]

I also would like lambic older than my father. Send PayPal info.

 

[beerindex]

You can get 1940s/50s lambic for about $50 a bottle. Juice Machine is selling over $100 a can secondary. I was talking secondary prices not retail.

Assuming this was true, it is safe to say it won't be going forward given that the immediate reaction of everybody reading this is "slide into my PMs with info on how to make this happen."

 

[jtclockwork]

Assuming this was true, it is safe to say it won't be going forward given that the immediate reaction of everybody reading this is "slide into my PMs with info on how to make this happen."

It's not easy to find but I've seen several lambic bottles this year that are that old in that price range. There are sellers out there. Usually people who inherit estates in Belgium or people that buy from estate sales and then resell. I absolutely love old lambic, so I spend a lot of time looking for it. It's findable if you put in the effort. I don't sell beer at all, so I can't hook anybody up with bottles other than to share some old lambic with people at various beer shares or events.

Bottles of that age are a bit of a crapshoot so when they do turn up they tend not to go for much unless they are Cantillon or Drie or Goosens (as sold by Mikkeller). Plus, the amount of people that are looking for 1950s Mort Subite, for example, is a lot smaller than the amount of people searching for the latest hype stout.

That said, I've had much more positive than negative experiences. Oddly, most of my negative experiences have been with Cantillon or Eylenbosch and they have all been bottles in the mid-to late 70s or early 80s to mid 80s. 1979 Eylenbosch kriek and Cantillon cuvee neuf nations being the worst offenders as those bottles I tried were completely undrinkable. However, I've also had bottles of Eylenbosch from the 1980s, 1975 Hanssens and 1979 Cantillon Geuze that had some problems with them and weren't very good. I've never had this problem with pre-1970 bottles. That's not to say that every bottle pre 1970 was mind-blowing but they were all quite drinkable with a few of them being absolutely fantastic.

 

[nhindian1]

Not really a whale, but one of the first beers I ever really wanted to trade for was Voodoo Black Magick (pre-spiffy barrel room collection labels). That beer was great - maybe not as great as some of the barrel room collection iterations (Pappy and Apple Brandy probably being my favorites) - but still great.

Still reading through this thread but caught this one and had to respond.

When I was in college, our local beer distributor got 4 cases of the 2011 Black Magick (the black and white label). We were just getting into craft beer, so a couple of us split a case. Loved the bottle we opened and bought another. Left the last two because we were college students and were already splurging. Ended up drinking/trading my share of those bottles within 2 or 3 years. Good times!

 

[RyanG1]

It's not easy to find but I've seen several lambic bottles this year that are that old in that price range. There are sellers out there. Usually people who inherit estates in Belgium or people that buy from estate sales and then resell. I absolutely love old lambic, so I spend a lot of time looking for it. It's findable if you put in the effort. I don't sell beer at all, so I can't hook anybody up with bottles other than to share some old lambic with people at various beer shares or events.

Bottles of that age are a bit of a crapshoot so when they do turn up they tend not to go for much unless they are Cantillon or Drie or Goosens (as sold by Mikkeller). Plus, the amount of people that are looking for 1950s Mort Subite, for example, is a lot smaller than the amount of people searching for the latest hype stout.

That said, I've had much more positive than negative experiences. Oddly, most of my negative experiences have been with Cantillon or Eylenbosch and they have all been bottles in the mid-to late 70s or early 80s to mid 80s. 1979 Eylenbosch kriek and Cantillon cuvee neuf nations being the worst offenders as those bottles I tried were completely undrinkable. However, I've also had bottles of Eylenbosch from the 1980s, 1975 Hanssens and 1979 Cantillon Geuze that had some problems with them and weren't very good. I've never had this problem with pre-1970 bottles. That's not to say that every bottle pre 1970 was mind-blowing but they were all quite drinkable with a few of them being absolutely fantastic.

I purchased some Upland lambic that precedes Pence’s homosexual college period.

Wat

 

[KevSal]

still amazing!

 

[FoudreGuy]

It's not easy to find but I've seen several lambic bottles this year that are that old in that price range. There are sellers out there. Usually people who inherit estates in Belgium or people that buy from estate sales and then resell. I absolutely love old lambic, so I spend a lot of time looking for it. It's findable if you put in the effort. I don't sell beer at all, so I can't hook anybody up with bottles other than to share some old lambic with people at various beer shares or events.

Bottles of that age are a bit of a crapshoot so when they do turn up they tend not to go for much unless they are Cantillon or Drie or Goosens (as sold by Mikkeller). Plus, the amount of people that are looking for 1950s Mort Subite, for example, is a lot smaller than the amount of people searching for the latest hype stout.

That said, I've had much more positive than negative experiences. Oddly, most of my negative experiences have been with Cantillon or Eylenbosch and they have all been bottles in the mid-to late 70s or early 80s to mid 80s. 1979 Eylenbosch kriek and Cantillon cuvee neuf nations being the worst offenders as those bottles I tried were completely undrinkable. However, I've also had bottles of Eylenbosch from the 1980s, 1975 Hanssens and 1979 Cantillon Geuze that had some problems with them and weren't very good. I've never had this problem with pre-1970 bottles. That's not to say that every bottle pre 1970 was mind-blowing but they were all quite drinkable with a few of them being absolutely fantastic.

I'd gladly drink some 1950's Mort Subite. That's pre-sugar days.

I have a friend who lives in Spa, Belgium. I should have her just kinda look around at estate sales for any old lambic. Never would've thought about that.

 

[jtclockwork]

I'd gladly drink some 1950's Mort Subite. That's pre-sugar days.

I have a friend who lives in Spa, Belgium. I should have her just kinda look around at estate sales for any old lambic. Never would've thought about that.

Absolutely! Old bottles pop up all the time. Prices vary, but I've gotten plenty for around $50. I'd say the average range is usually around $50-125 with a few exceptions. For some reason, really obscure makers that are long extinct tend to go on the higher end of that scale. One outlier I know of are bottles of 1950s Heyvaert Kriek that are floating around in the $200 range. But that's not the norm price-wise from what I've seen.

I haven't opened my bottle of 1950s Mort Subite yet, but I'm looking forward to it!

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

still amazing!

I just saw an Ithaca sour on the shelves called cranbetty or something like that. Got super excited but searched it before grabbing them all. Glad I did as it was a Berliner with Brett. Packaging reminded me of brute and lebleu

 

[mjohnson171]

Anyone into beer in the mid aughts that remember Dark Lord and Dark Lord day in 04/05/06? When there was pallets of DL and you could just buy as much DL as you wanted, by the case?

Remember the old bar/tap area in the brewery? There were a few taps in an old refrigerator and the bar was like 10ft long?


Or how about in 08-ish when Zombie Dust used to be a draft only beer that you could only take home in those cool 64 Oz FFF growlers.

 

[KevSal]

Anyone into beer in the mid aughts that remember Dark Lord and Dark Lord day in 04/05/06? When there was pallets of DL and you could just buy as much DL as you wanted, by the case?

Remember the old bar/tap area in the brewery? There were a few taps in an old refrigerator and the bar was like 10ft long?


Or how about in 08-ish when Zombie Dust used to be a draft only beer that you could only take home in those cool 64 Oz FFF growlers.

"busiest day ever"

 

[lb304854]

Or how about in 08-ish when Zombie Dust used to be a draft only beer that you could only take home in those cool 64 Oz FFF growlers.

Cenotaph, and it was more like late '09. I sent a couple of those growlers out.

 

[mjohnson171]

Cenotaph, and it was more like late '09. I sent a couple of those growlers out.

09, that sounds right. Was it 09 or 10 when they did 1 bottling run of ZD in 22oz bombers before finally doing 12oz bottles in like 2011/2012-ish.