thor99
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First of all let me say hello to everyone as this is my first post.
I live in a smallish town about 2.5 hrs outside of Seattle, WA. On a recent trip, I purchased two beer kits from a homebrew supply shop in Seattle and came home ready to brew. The two kits were Cooper's Australian Lager, and Muntons Connoisseurs Range Wheat beer.
After reading the instructions for these two brews, and flailing my way through the Cooper's Lager kit, I am left with some questions that I can't seem to find the answers to.
1 - The Cooper's Australian Lager kit's instructions say to ferment at 18 - 25C. That seems to me to be an ale temp range. So is it an ale, or a lager? My guess is that it is an ale that's meant to taste like a lager?
2 - The "Lager" kit called for adding 1kg of sugar, at the advice of the guy at the homebrew shop I used 2 lb. light dried malt extract instead. My wort is much darker than I had expected. Is this because of the malt extract vs. sugar, or just because I'm a noob? Am I going to end up with some weird pale ale / lager hybrid?
2a - If it is better to use malt extract, why doesn't the kit call for it, or for that matter come with it?
3 - For some reason, the homebrew store guy thought I needed sugar for the Cooper's kit, but not for the Muntons Wheat Beer kit. So, I only bought 2lb of malt extract, and have since used it on the batch of Lager. Turns out I needed it for both. Any advice on what I should use for sugar with my Munton's wheat beer kit?
3a - I was thinking of making invert sugar and using that as the sugar additive to the wheat beer. Am I an idiot?
3b - Since the closest homebrew supply place is 2+ hrs away, I'll probably be ordering online mostly. However, does anyone know where I might be able to find ingredients in a 50k person town? Do health food stores carry any of the commonly used ingredients? Does Wal-Mart have a super secret homebrew section between the fishing dept and women's shoes?
4 - Why do you add sugar to these kit's anyway? I know it is to give the yeast something to eat, but sugar is not a normal ingredient in beer is it? Is that why the store clerk recommended DME instead?
4a - Also, it seems to me that if you just boil the can of hopped malt extract formula in a pot with the sugar anyway, why couldn't the manufacturer just add some sugar to the can in the first place? I'm not complaining, the kit was really easy to follow and if it serves a purpose, by all means I'm fine with adding DME/sugar. I just want to understand the logic behind it. I have a sneaking suspicion that it is a way of getting you to buy the kit because it's only $17 or so, then selling you $12 of DME. So, is it necessary to the brewing process, or just a creative pricing scheme?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice.
I live in a smallish town about 2.5 hrs outside of Seattle, WA. On a recent trip, I purchased two beer kits from a homebrew supply shop in Seattle and came home ready to brew. The two kits were Cooper's Australian Lager, and Muntons Connoisseurs Range Wheat beer.
After reading the instructions for these two brews, and flailing my way through the Cooper's Lager kit, I am left with some questions that I can't seem to find the answers to.
1 - The Cooper's Australian Lager kit's instructions say to ferment at 18 - 25C. That seems to me to be an ale temp range. So is it an ale, or a lager? My guess is that it is an ale that's meant to taste like a lager?
2 - The "Lager" kit called for adding 1kg of sugar, at the advice of the guy at the homebrew shop I used 2 lb. light dried malt extract instead. My wort is much darker than I had expected. Is this because of the malt extract vs. sugar, or just because I'm a noob? Am I going to end up with some weird pale ale / lager hybrid?
2a - If it is better to use malt extract, why doesn't the kit call for it, or for that matter come with it?
3 - For some reason, the homebrew store guy thought I needed sugar for the Cooper's kit, but not for the Muntons Wheat Beer kit. So, I only bought 2lb of malt extract, and have since used it on the batch of Lager. Turns out I needed it for both. Any advice on what I should use for sugar with my Munton's wheat beer kit?
3a - I was thinking of making invert sugar and using that as the sugar additive to the wheat beer. Am I an idiot?
3b - Since the closest homebrew supply place is 2+ hrs away, I'll probably be ordering online mostly. However, does anyone know where I might be able to find ingredients in a 50k person town? Do health food stores carry any of the commonly used ingredients? Does Wal-Mart have a super secret homebrew section between the fishing dept and women's shoes?
4 - Why do you add sugar to these kit's anyway? I know it is to give the yeast something to eat, but sugar is not a normal ingredient in beer is it? Is that why the store clerk recommended DME instead?
4a - Also, it seems to me that if you just boil the can of hopped malt extract formula in a pot with the sugar anyway, why couldn't the manufacturer just add some sugar to the can in the first place? I'm not complaining, the kit was really easy to follow and if it serves a purpose, by all means I'm fine with adding DME/sugar. I just want to understand the logic behind it. I have a sneaking suspicion that it is a way of getting you to buy the kit because it's only $17 or so, then selling you $12 of DME. So, is it necessary to the brewing process, or just a creative pricing scheme?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice.