Jaded flow direction

[kohalajohn]

My Jaded scylla will be arriving soon.

The inlet and outlet have garden hose fittings, a male and female.

Which is the best direction to run the cold water? Should the cold water go into the male or into the female fitting?

thx

 

[Agent]

Functionally, it should be immaterial which direction water flows.

Generally, you'd follow the usual garden hose setup which connects to a male spigot and female accessory.

 

[kohalajohn]

Yeah. We assume we are stirring the wort. Which we are. Otherwise the top would be hot and we should enter the cold water at the top

Does that make sense?

 

[doug293cz]

Hook it up in a way that does not require you to add any adapters between the hose and the chiller.

Brew on

 

[sibelman]

Maybe the other way around? As an unstirred kettle develops a temperature gradient, it's a bit like a counterflow chiller where the incoming cold water goes in where the somewhat chilled wort is exiting.

 

[kohalajohn]

I think I’ll time it and find out.

I spent the afternoon adding quick disconnect fittings to hoses. I can easily reverse it and find out.

 

[Tony B]

Maybe do a couple test runs from a kettle of boiling water to see which direction is most efficient?

 

[BongoYodeler]

Hook it up in a way that does not require you to add any adapters between the hose and the chiller.

Brew on

Agreed. Although I added these to make hooking up quicker and easier. And I also swapped out the stock hose gaskets with silicone ones that are so much better.
I. hate. leaks.

 

[kohalajohn]

Bongo, those are exactly what I added. I am so done with screwing around with bad plumbing

Although I've never heard that garden hose silicone gaskets were a thing. Thank you. I am so going to buy a ton of them right now.

 

[BongoYodeler]

Bongo, those are exactly what I added. I am so done with screwing around with bad plumbing

Although I've never heard that garden hose silicone gaskets were a thing. Thank you. I am so going to buy a ton of them right now.

These are what I bought. I replaced the gaskets on all the quick connects, and I also have three outside faucets at my house, with hoses on alI of them. So I replaced the gaskets on all the hoses too.

 

[kohalajohn]

They silicone gaskets are arriving today.

I'm assuming the Kegland Keg Lube will work on silicone. Previously I put silicone spray on my rubber o rings, but I don't think you are supposed to use silicone lube on silicone products.

I've written to the supplier and we'll see what they say.

 

[kohalajohn]

Although my research is showing that silicone gaskets do not need lubrication.

maybe that's why kegland makes them bright yellow. so we know not to spray our silicone lube over them.

If anybody else knows about this please let us know. I"m just speculating here.

 

[BongoYodeler]

I haven't used any lube on mine, and I doubt I will. They work really well as is. The key is to not over tighten them, hand tight is all you need. Don't use a wrench to snug them tighter, silicone is softer than the rubber gaskets and they'll split. Yeah, I did that. Once.

 

[AlexKay]

Will you be using it north or south of the equator?

 

[kohalajohn]

Ok, Alex has us back on topic. Thanks Alex.

I can advise that Jaded has now answered my question. It is in accord with what you folk have said. Except they completely miss out on the Coriolis effect.


Thanks again for being JaDeD!

Great question. From a manufacturing standpoint, we fabricate the coils so that the cold water enters through the top of the coils (the female garden hose fitting). We do this for ease of use when using a typical garden hose setup that traditionally has the male end of the hose available to hook up to.

However, the direction of water flow does not matter for efficiency as long as you are continually agitating the wort during your chilling process. Agitation is key in chilling efficiency. Without wort agitation, your chilling times will easily be two to three times as long, using two to three times more water.

The best agitation is to continuously stir the wort with your brew spoon/paddle during chilling. The next best is to physically move the chiller around in your kettle, and if you don't want to do either of those, then you can mechanically whirlpool with a food grade pump.

I hope that this helps, and please don't hesitate to ask any more questions that you have along the way.

Cheers!

-Clay
JaDeD
www.jadedbrewing.com

 

[doug293cz]

They silicone gaskets are arriving today.

I'm assuming the Kegland Keg Lube will work on silicone. Previously I put silicone spray on my rubber o rings, but I don't think you are supposed to use silicone lube on silicone products.

I've written to the supplier and we'll see what they say.

Although my research is showing that silicone gaskets do not need lubrication.

maybe that's why kegland makes them bright yellow. so we know not to spray our silicone lube over them.

If anybody else knows about this please let us know. I"m just speculating here.

Silicone lubricants should never be used on silicone elastomers. They absorb into the material and weaken it, and silicone elastomers are not all that strong to begin with. As mentioned earlier, they shouldn't need lube, since silicone "O" rings and washers are softer than common alternatives, and easily deform to seal uneven surfaces.

Brew on

 

[kohalajohn]

btw, Clay at JaDed Brewing thinks the idea about the hemispheric Coriolis effect is pretty fabulous.

 

[Bobby_M]

The Coriolis effect is measurable in a lab under extremely controlled conditions but a 1 milliwatt pump would over power the effect by 100x. In other words, it would be obnoxious to hold the phenomena in any regard when considering practical applications of chilling wort.

 

[kohalajohn]

It’s very humorous though

I experienced the Coriolis effect when doing an eastward blue water cruise of the South Pacific Ocean. .

In the south, a low pressure system rotates clockwise. We needed to be lifted north so we entered it and did a « slingshot » maneuver.

It worked, but at a price.

Anyway. I’m saying you only notice Coriolis in large systems.

 

[Whisky River]