IPA - no crystal

[billl]

Anybody have any good malt bills for an IPA that don't involve any crystal? Just looking for something a little different but that will still result in a nice, dry IPA.

 

[AnchorBock]

Check out the Firestone Walker Union Jack recipe, uses a small amount if simpsons 37L crystal that is ommitted from their Pale Ale grist. They basically use something like 80% 2 row, 15% munich and 5% carapils. Ive used their ipa grist with fantastic results in conjunction with WLP002 which is similar to their house strain. You can really dry it out with their mash profile. I dont have a link handy on my cell or Id add one.

 

[billl]

Is this it?

"Union Jack" IPA (Clone)
13 lbs US 2-row
2 lbs light Munich (8-10L)
12 oz Briess Carapils
4 oz Simpson's Caramalt 30/37

 

[Yooper]

My DFH 60 minute clone is 13 pounds US two-row and 6 ounces amber malt. I prefer the Thomas Fawcett amber malt, but I have used Crisp as well.

I like that grainbill. It's light in color, not the least bit caramelly or sweet, but "warm" and clean.

 

[bobbrews]

I guess you're just asking for a basic grist of what would work?...

80-88% 2 row pale
8-12% wheat or light munich
4-8% corn sugar or honey

 

[billl]

Yeah, I've just done a bunch of base/pale malt plus a bit of different crystal over and over and would like to mix it up a bit. I've seen the Munich in a couple of recipes but not the amber - both sounds worth a shot. Thanks

Any other suggestions welcome.

 

[terrapinj]

melanoidin malt works great in IPAs as well

 

[Beezer94]

Nugget Nectar uses 80% Vienna, 10% Munich & 10% Pilsner and it's delicious

 

[inhousebrew]

2-Row Pale, Vienna, a splash of honey malt and a ton of citrusy hops.

 

[billl]

Grains arrived today.

8% Munich
92% Marris Otter

Mashing @149 with 1.5qt/lb

Hopping Plan

Magnum to bitter (tweaked to hit 70IBU total for the beer)

Simcoe, Columbus and Citra - half ounce each at 15 and 0

1oz of each to dryhop

WY1056 @ 63 for 5 days and then ramp to 70 to finish.

Shooting for a dry IPA in the 7.5 ABV range.

 

[JesperX]

Grains arrived today.

8% Munich
92% Marris Otter

Exactly what I was about to recommend. Can't go wrong with Maris and Munich.

 

[Xpertskir]

melanoidin malt works great in IPAs as well

3floyds is uses a ton a melanoidin. Im brewing the BYO dreadnaught tomorrow

Dreadnaught clone (Three Floyds Brewing Co.)

OG 1.084
FG 1.021
IBU 100
SRM 11
ABV 8.1

Apparent Attenuation 75%
Brewhouse Efficency 65%

Fermentables
% Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Gravity Points Color
92.9 % 16.25 American Two-row Pale 78.2 5.9
7.1 % 1.25 Melanoidin Malt 5.4 10.0

Hops
% Wt Weight (oz) Hop Form AA% AAU Boil Time Utilization IBU
11.3 % 0.53 Warrior Whole/Plug 15.0 8.0 60 0.202 24.1
13.0 % 0.61 Simcoe Whole/Plug 13.0 7.9 60 0.202 24.0
15.5 % 0.73 Centennial Whole/Plug 11.0 8.0 45 0.186 22.3
15.5 % 0.73 Centennial Whole/Plug 11.0 8.0 30 0.155 18.7
34.0 % 1.60 Cascade Whole/Plug 5.0 8.0 15 0.100 12.0
10.6 % 0.50 Cascade Whole/Plug 5.0 2.5 DH 0.000 0.0

1 tsp Irish moss
Wyeast 1968 or WLP002
Single infusion at 159 deg F for 60 min.
Boil 90 min.
Ferment at 68 deg F.

No crystal, but with a 159 mash temp, it'll be the sweet and chewy DIPA that always blows my mind.

 

[billl]

Just an update...

Turned out really well. The munich and MO gave some nice grainy notes but little sweetness. Definitely a grain bill worth repeating.