Hill Farmstead thread

[gregkoko]

Why is this $30 a bottle? Wud rather have $15 375ml's (don't get me started about the 2nd CD7 release...which is still not even ready to drink)

Because people paid $30 for Le Sarrasin when it came out without trying it prior.

 

[Frank1]

Why is this $30 a bottle? Wud rather have $15 375ml's (don't get me started about the 2nd CD7 release...which is still not even ready to drink)

I'm going to guess it has a lot to do with the 2.5yr Art being a major component.

 

[bahnfire]

Why is this $30 a bottle?

I think this increase in price for large format BA beers is going to be the trend going forward. The fact that its actually the same cost/Oz of most of the 375ml bottles makes the price a little easier for me to swallow, as I would have bought at least 2 375ml bottles for $15 without batting an eye. And I generally prefer beers like this in a larger format, since I usually only open them to share.

 

[ASUBeer]

Oh my. I need a CD#10. That sounds amazing.

 

[techbrew1]

Site updated:

Civil Disobedience #10: A blend of barrel-aged beers including 2.5-year-old Art, Sankt Hans primary fermented in Phenomenology of Spirt barrels et al. 750ml. $30

Limits now shown, 2/pp

 

[ncaudle]

Because people paid $30 for Le Sarrasin when it came out without trying it prior.

could have potentially tried it on draft at Parker Pie, Res, Pro Pig, etc...

 

[Ataraxia1]

Dat wobble






Wait, plenty of neck but no beard whatsoever?

 

[acurtis]

I just busted out my calculator and $15/375 is the same thing as $30/750

Not really since you can't re-cap and store the other 375ml for very long

 

[Respirologist]

Not really since you can't re-cap and store the other 375ml for very long

Oh well. Shaun puts it in 375ml to get more bottles into more peoples hands and people complain, then switches to 750ml and people complain. Can't please everyone.

 

[acurtis]

Oh well. Shaun puts it in 375ml to get more bottles into more peoples hands and people complain, then switches to 750ml and people complain. Can't please everyone.

Don't take my response as a complaint. I'd buy as many as I can. Just don't like the increased price trend. I could be slightly sour about cd7, since I opened my 3rd one a few nights ago and it was straight butter still.

 

[MKtheGeneral]

Oh well. Shaun puts it in 375ml to get more bottles into more peoples hands and people complain, then switches to 750ml and people complain. Can't please everyone.

Agreed. The big thing for me is I'm just fond of 375s as I can open one up and not have to feel a commitment to polish it off alone if my wife isn't up for that particular beer.

 

[markgugs]

I see the value of both...like MKtheGeneral said, smaller formats are awesome because I can open them w/o feeling the need to fully commit to the beer lol. but bigger formats are cool b/c they're perfect for shares, etc.

but then again, I have WAY too many 22s/750s in my home so...goddamnit why aren't they 375s?!?

HULK SMASH

 

[abawol01]

Oh well. Shaun puts it in 375ml to get more bottles into more peoples hands and people complain, then switches to 750ml and people complain. Can't please everyone.

500Ml? Happy Medium??

 

[acurtis]

I see the value of both...like MKtheGeneral said, smaller formats are awesome because I can open them w/o feeling the need to fully commit to the beer lol. but bigger formats are cool b/c they're perfect for shares, etc.

but then again, I have WAY too many 22s/750s in my home so...goddamnit why aren't they 375s?!?

HULK SMASH

We can crush all the 750's tonight.

 

[MKtheGeneral]

I see the value of both...like MKtheGeneral said, smaller formats are awesome because I can open them w/o feeling the need to fully commit to the beer lol. but bigger formats are cool b/c they're perfect for shares, etc.

but then again, I have WAY too many 22s/750s in my home so...goddamnit why aren't they 375s?!?

HULK SMASH

Playing devils advocate, I'm happy that alot of my 750s are 750s too.. That would double the count on all of those bottles in my inventory making me feel even more like a glutton.

 

[ncaudle]

...Shaun puts it in 375ml to get more bottles into more peoples hands and people complain...

 

[Os]

Don't take my response as a complaint. I'd buy as many as I can. Just don't like the increased price trend.

but if it's a 750, can you call it an increased price?

 

[DigDug1810]

Nice. Hope some make it till Saturday, should be able to stop by.

 

[acurtis]

but if it's a 750, can you call it an increased price?

Yes since 375ml's are almost always priced higher per oz.
If Anna or Florence were released in 375ml, would they be $5?

 

[MKtheGeneral]

Yes since 375ml's are almost always priced higher per oz.
If Anna or Florence were released in 375ml, would they be $5?

 

[Os]

Yes since 375ml's are almost always priced higher per oz.
If Anna or Florence were released in 375ml, would they be $5?

you're still paying the same price per oz though... so can you call it a price increase or a preferred format?

 

[markgugs]

Yes since 375ml's are almost always priced higher per oz.
If Anna or Florence were released in 375ml, would they be $5?

ISO 375ml ANNA OR FLORENCE

 

[JulianB1]

Yes since 375ml's are almost always priced higher per oz.
If Anna or Florence were released in 375ml, would they be $5?

I think the better argument there is that HF's shelf saisons are underpriced, given how they fly off the shelves by the case at their current price point and how expensive similar beers are in comparison (like Crooked Stave's brett beers, for instance).

Of course, that's probably not the kind of thing people want to hear. Or at least, they don't want Shaun to start thinking it.

 

[Respirologist]

Don't take my response as a complaint. I'd buy as many as I can. Just don't like the increased price trend. I could be slightly sour about cd7, since I opened my 3rd one a few nights ago and it was straight butter still.

You compalined. End of story. Not a big deal. I'm over it. So is everyone else. Time to move on

As for the ones that are sick of " Price Increases " barrel aged beers carry a premium. Be happy he isn't charging $18 a 375ml like Beatification.... I personally don't have a problem paying more for a properly cellared beer being released again ie: CD7 @ $20 375ml when it was $15 at the 1st release

Dont like the price = don't pay it. There is 3F Golden Blend sitting on shelf near me for $24.99 a 375ml. I draw the line there.

 

[sobeleg]

I think it could be classified as a price increase, as a larger format should lead to lower cost as the process becomes shorter and more efficient. A 750ml would require less overall cost for glass, labels, caps, labor/overhead (it takes less time to fill one 750ml vs. two 375ml) and storage space. Theoretically the product would also move quicker which for any business there is inherit value to carrying less stock, and a dollar today will always be worth more than a dollar tomorrow.

 

[Respirologist]

I think the better argument there is that HF's shelf saisons are underpriced, given how they fly off the shelves by the case at their current price point and how expensive similar beers are in comparison (like Crooked Stave's brett beers, for instance).

Of course, that's probably not the kind of thing people want to hear. Or at least, they don't want Shaun to start thinking it.

Ya lets not talk about that....

 

[tehzachatak]

You compalined. End of story. Not a big deal. I'm over it. So is everyone else. Time to move on

As for the ones that are sick of " Price Increases " barrel aged beers carry a premium. Be happy he isn't charging $18 a 375ml like Beatification.... I personally don't have a problem paying more for a properly cellared beer being released again ie: CD7 @ $20 375ml when it was $15 at the 1st release

Dont like the price = don't pay it. There is 3F Golden Blend sitting on shelf near me for $24.99 a 375ml. I draw the line there.

$24.99 golden blend? Direct me there, good sir!

 

[Os]

bummed I can't do Zwanze...

 

[Respirologist]

$24.99 golden blend? Direct me there, good sir!

lol, how many you want ? Shoot me a PM

 

[DigDug1810]

I think it could be classified as a price increase, as a larger format should lead to lower cost as the process becomes shorter and more efficient. A 750ml would require less overall cost for glass, labels, caps, labor/overhead (it takes less time to fill one 750ml vs. two 375ml) and storage space. Theoretically the product would also move quicker which for any business there is inherit value to carrying less stock, and a dollar today will always be worth more than a dollar tomorrow.

I think most understand this. But how much do those time/materials equate to? Maybe $2-3. I don't expect the beer to then be $27. Could they do that, sure. Is not doing it ok, sure. Like others mention it's more than a fair price for what you are getting imo. Now after he has maxed out capacity and been doing full production for awhile maybe I'd be more inclined to go with the he is spending less on labels/caps/glass/time etc to like to see a lower cost. When bigger craft places don't throw a bone to the consumers every now and again with a lower cost on a bigger bottle when it can be had in small format, it does rustle jimmies, but a small rustling