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Highly doubt i will ever buy leaf hops again.

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turvis

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I bought some leaf belma and centennial hops from hops direct and was excited cause I always pellets. Come to find out they are a pain in the a$$ to weight out due to volume and I am dreading clean up. I think I will stick to pellets from now on.


Yay 100th post I am moving up in the world.
 
I'm with ya'. I don't care for the cleanup either - good cold crash can clear things up enough for me. Yay you on 100 - have a beer and celebrate!
 
I am currently drinking a zombie dust clone that I used 9 ounces of citra leaf hops in - it is one of the 10 best beers I have brewed in my 18 years. It is great. I used a huge mesh bag in the boil to keep adding the hops, and I used a big muslin bag to add the 3 ounces of dry hops. Leaf hops are a pain if you just dump them in. Bag them and they are not. Make sure the bag is big enough to give them some room though.
 
just place a bowl on the scale and zero it out (mine I just hit the on button again) the scale will read zero and you can add your hops to the bowl to weight them. This is how I weight grains I'm guessing you don't use grain yet?

For clean up just use a large mesh bag to hold the hops (like the ones poeple use for BIAB mashes) they cost about $2 and are reusable. Pull it out when done and discard the hops. You will want to dunk it up and down a every few minutes during your boil as well to make sure the wort is getting inside.

But pellet hops are probably just easier. I always use a hop bag, the one time I didn't I ended up with a hop leaf in nearly every glass.
 
My dumb ass didn't even think to look to see if they had pellets for the same price. Oh well you live you learn. It is kinda cool to put whole leaf hops in a glass and pour a beer over them. And thank god I built a hop spider before doing this batch.
 
I have a triple beam scale and use that to weight hops I have my grains measured and milled at the hbs. I do want to get a digital scale I hated triple beams in high school and I hate them now can't seam to zero it out to anything big enough to hold the hops.
 
I've brewed with whole leaf hops precisely once in my brewing career. I'm sure there are techniques that make them easier to use, but if I have a choice, I will always choose pellets. So much better not only for manageability, but for utilization. Much more surface area.
 
I boil in a keggle with a false bottom (from NorCal brewing, it's awesome), and I actually like leaf hops more because they act as a better filter (kind of like a grain bed) when draining the wort off into the CFC.
 
I like pellet hops when dry hopping/keg hopping. During brewing it doesn't really matter much but leaf is a MUST for the hop back!
 
I've done a few APA's and one IPA with all home grown hops. it's a damn mess. the brews came out awesome though. sometimes, IMO, the PITA is part of the fun. next year I plan on some APA's & IPA's with all home grown. Nugget, Fuggles, Cascade, Willamette. all on their second year (next year :rolleyes:).
 
I am going to try and build something that will fit on the front of my keggerator so you can watch the beer flow through whole leaf hops as you pour a pint. I think it would be interesting and have a cool wow factor when people come over.
 
I have dogs. Hops and dogs don't mix. Leaf hops get little bits everywhere and I have to spend ages cleaning it all up. Pellets are better for me.
 
I just started using leaf. IMO it's much easier to pull a hop bag out of my kettle than trying to filter out the pellets with a strainer.

Also I was reading an interview with sierra Nevada where they said they really prefer leaf, their theory is that processing the leafs causes a change for the worse in the character of the hops.

Regardless, go with what works.
 
I prefer whole leaf. Don't use a bag, just dump them in. 2 to 6 ounces in the boil and then after the boil I just dump into the bucket through a wire mesh stainer. Sometimes I have to empty half way through, but overall a piece of cake. I also have dogs so I let the hops finish dripping and then simply empty them into the garbage bag. I do sometimes use pellets, but just use the same process. With pellets I seem to get more particles that fall through into the wort. No big deal - it all settles out in the end.
 
A digital kitchen scale & a plastic bowl - easy to weigh. A false bottom in the boil pot, with a mesh tube - no problems draining the wort. Toxic to dogs? Maybe - little science to back it up; probably because our dogs show no interest in them. By the way, I'm a veterinarian...
 
Sometimes I have to use pellets when my LHBS doesn't have what I want in whole leaf.
 
True.

Unless I'm proven wrong, the only benefit I see with whole leaf hops is that you are able to more accurately gauge their quality with your eyes. Pellets are so compact and ground up that it's difficult to gauge their quality. Price may be a factor, but not always.

And as the above two posters said, if you want a specific varietal, sometimes you're forced to buy what they have in stock.
 
I've been using only leaf hops for the last 4 brews or so. I'm not sure why you think clean up is so much harder. I'm really happy with the leaves and find them just as easy to work with.

I'll still use pellet once in a while, but I'm really happy with how my system is setup for leafs.
 
I go back and forth. Both have their upsides IMO. I like leaf hops for post-chill aroma additions; easy to pull the bag out after they've steeped for awhile. If I had to choose one to brew with forever it would probably be leaf.
 
I'm not sure why you think clean up is so much harder.

Well using them in general is messier / more of a hassle.

From the amount of freezer space they take up, to re-sealing the package, weighing them, adding/removing them to the boil, adding/removing them to the carboy, bagging them or even tossing them in loose.

There's just more debris. I find leaf hop bits all over my apartment after a brew session and I'm not a messy brewer. Leaf hops also take up a lot of space in the carboy when dryhopping.
 
I'm an equal-opportunity hop slinger. If they're green, smell funky, and sitting in front of me while I'm brewing then I throw them in. It doesn't matter your shape or size - you're going in the brewpot :D
 

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