Help me clone Victory Hop Ranch

[masonsjax]

Is Azacca a trade name for Citra? I've heard complaints about this year's Citra crops having onion/garlic aroma too. I have a pound in the freezer but haven't opened it yet.

 

[Snicklefritz]

Is Azacca a trade name for Citra? I've heard complaints about this year's Citra crops having onion/garlic aroma too. I have a pound in the freezer but haven't opened it yet.

I don't believe they are related. Azacca was an experimental variety that was just released last year. But then again anything is possible.

I picked up the pilsner from my LHBS and the last of my hops arrived today so I think this is going to happen on Friday or Saturday. Decided to use WLP007 (because I have some) and will be making a 2L starter. Because I have 8oz each of Azacca and Mosaic I may just crazy when it comes to hop stand/dry hop time..... some extra hops may just fall in. If I do, I'll post accordingly. I'll be sure to post some pics on brew day too.

 

[NathPowe]

Nice dude. What's your target OG and FG for this beer? If it were me I might even bump it up to a 2.5L or 3L starter, and I'd blast it with about 90 seconds of O2 before pitching. Seemed like a pretty dry beer when I had it last, and I'd to hate to see you have attenuation issues after all the effort and $ you've thrown down. As always - just my thoughts. Obviously you know your system better than I do.

Looking forward to the updates. Good luck.

 

[Snicklefritz]

I got my starter going for this batch last night and I had my first ever starter blowout when I checked on it this morning! I guess I have some healthy yeast there. Brewing either tonight or tomorrow' Probably tomorrow or my wife will kill me for brewing on Valentine's Day.

 

[Ilan34]

Any update on how this went? I'm planning on brewing this in two weeks, so the pre-pro has begun...

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[Snicklefritz]

I brewed this on Saturday and missed my numbers a bit. Was shooting for 1.085 but hit 1.078 mainly due to too much water. Only my 3rd brew on my new electric system and I am still dialing things in. I can tell you that the hop stand smells ABSOLUTELY fantastic. I've never done one before and will probably be doing them from now on with IPAs. I upped the hop stand hops to 3 oz's of each because I had extras. So I dumped in 1.5 oz's of each right at boil out.... 15 minutes later the wort was already down to 176 (brew in my garage and it was cold) so I set my controller to hold temps at 175 and dumped in another 1.5 oz's of each hop and recirculated for another 30 minutes. The intense hop aroma in my garage was incredible. I will be dry hopping with another 2 oz of each in a week or so.

 

[y2jrock60]

There hasn't been too much talk about the yeast used in Hop Ranch. I was wondering what would be be the best yeast candidate?

 

[Snicklefritz]

I really couldn't find too much in that area either. I had WLP001 and WLP007 in my stockpile and went with the 007. I'm sure either would have worked fine.

 

[declark42]

Is Azacca a trade name for Citra? I've heard complaints about this year's Citra crops having onion/garlic aroma too. I have a pound in the freezer but haven't opened it yet.

Definitely not the same hop - Azacca was formerly known as ADHA 483 while it was still in the experimental phases.

 

[Ilan34]

Any updates on this? I'm brewing this this weekend, and I began my starter of WLP007 last night. I'm wondering what fermentation temperature I should shoot for. Any advice? I've never used this yeast before.

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[Snicklefritz]

I think the optimal range is like 65-70F. I started mine at 62F and let it get up to 68F over a few days. I was planning on doing a gravity reading tonight to see if we're ready for dry hopping. The activity in the airlock has all but stopped.

 

[Ilan34]

Brewed this this morning. Somehow, my efficiency was slightly higher than usual - 77%. I'd accounted for 71%, so I wound up with an OG of 1.093. I decided to do a 10% topoff so as not to underpitch. All in all, I have 2.7 gallons of 1.082 wort sitting at 65... I pitched 2.5 hours ago, so I should see some activity soon.

I did a hop stand for the first time. I added .60 oz each of Azacca and Mosaic at flameout. I let that sit for 30 minutes and then added another .60 oz of each at 175 degrees and let that sit for 30 minutes before chilling in an ice bath. I also did an addition of .60 oz each in the boil at five minutes.

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[Ilan34]

Took the first gravity tonight, 11 days in. From 1.082 it's down to 1.014. Pretty good, although I wouldn't mind if it dropped another point or two. Sample tasted great. Hop flavor galore, not too bitter, just a tiny bit boozy. I'll be dry hopping on Sunday. This one will be ready to drink on my daughter's 2nd birthday.

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[y2jrock60]

OP, how much longer until your clone is ready to try? I have 2# of both Azacca and Mosaic and I'm eagerly awaiting to try to make this beer.

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[Snicklefritz]

Unfortunately, I had some issues with my electric setup and I seem to have scorched this batch. It tastes like it was aged with firewood in it. I have since resolved the issues with my setup and will be trying it again soon. Hopefully someone else who
tried the recipe can comment.

 

[masonsjax]

Bummer

 

[Ilan34]

Sorry OP, that sucks! Better luck with your next batch!

I just posted my recipe and the HBT app ate it, so I'll post it again later.

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[y2jrock60]

Unfortunately, I had some issues with my electric setup and I seem to have scorched this batch. It tastes like it was aged with firewood in it. I have since resolved the issues with my setup and will be trying it again soon. Hopefully someone else who
tried the recipe can comment.

I'm curious as to what caused the scorched wort? I'm in the pre-planning stages of an electric setup and would like prevent such things from happening.

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[Snicklefritz]

I'm curious as to what caused the scorched wort? I'm in the pre-planning stages of an electric setup and would like prevent such things from happening.

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I was completely new to BIAB. In doing my research prior to my first few batches I read that double-milling the grain will help offset some of the efficiency you lose by doing BIAB. Apparently, double-milling the grain is a bad idea with an electric element. The extra fine flour got through the bag and severely burnt on to the element. I had to scrub the **** out of it to get it clean. I have brewed two successful batches on it since figuring out where I went wrong. Just purchased the grain to give this another go (still had some hops left)

 

[krs0123]

Sorry OP, that sucks! Better luck with your next batch!

I just posted my recipe and the HBT app ate it, so I'll post it again later.

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Can you post the recipe? How'd it turn out?

 

[y2jrock60]

I brewed my 10 gallon test batch last weekend. I'll definitely let everyone know how it turned out in about 3 more weeks.

28lbs Pilsner
1lb Flaked Wheat
.5lbs Carapils

I did even additions of Mosaic and Azacca throughout the boil.
3oz 60min
2oz 15min
2oz 5min
1oz Flameout
3oz Whirlpool

I pitched a 4.5L starter of White Labs San diego Super Yeast.

It definitely smelled good going into the fermenter. I'll keep you guys updated.

 

[Ilan34]

Can you post the recipe? How'd it turn out?

Sure, sorry for the delay!

2.5 gallon batch, BIAB, 77% efficiency

Pilsner - 9 lbs
White Wheat malt - .50 lbs

Mashed @ 149 for 90 minutes.

Pre-boil OG: 1.057

90 minute boil

Magnum - .25 oz - 60 min
Azacca & Mosaic - .60 oz each - 5 min
Azacca & Mosaic - .60 oz each - flameout and hopstand for an hour
Azacca & Mosaic - .60 oz each - 30 min hopstand at 175 degrees -> 165 degrees

Azacca & Mosaic - 1.2 oz each - 7 day dry hop

Whirlfloc & yeast nutrient @ 10 minutes

WLP007 Dry English yeast - stir plate 1 liter starter, cold crashed and decanted

I don't have my water profile on me, but I can post that later if anyone is interested.

OG came out to 1.092. Topped off with a quart of distilled water and brought it down to 1.082.

Pitched at 64. Fermented at 65 degrees.

FG was 1.014. I was a little late bottling because of a week long vacation, so I won't be cracking one open until the 18th. However, it smelled and tasted incredible at bottling.... Smelled just like fresh squeezed citrus and mango juice.

Could be just a little bit more bitter, but it's hard to tell flat. Maybe I would up the Magnum by 20% or perhaps add a 15 minute addition next time.

Then again, it might be just fine.

I hope this helps!


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[Ilan34]

Look at that, two recipes within an hour of each other! Cheers!

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[Snicklefritz]

This is also next up in my pipeline too. Been itching to try it again. Maybe next weekend. Hopefully I'll finally be able to enjoy the recipe I created.... lol

 

[Ilan34]

This is also next up in my pipeline too. Been itching to try it again. Maybe next weekend. Hopefully I'll finally be able to enjoy the recipe I created.... lol

Of course, thank you for coming up with the meat and bones of this recipe. Mine is heavily based on yours, so I'll be sure to post some tasting notes.



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[oldstyle69]

http://www.craftedpours.com/homebrew-recipe/victory-hop-ranch-imperial-ipa-clone-homebrew-recipe

 

[Ilan34]

http://www.craftedpours.com/homebrew-recipe/victory-hop-ranch-imperial-ipa-clone-homebrew-recipe

Thanks for posting that. Good to get another perspective. It seems a little short on the quantity of hops, then again I haven't tried my own yet. I threw some in the fridge yesterday, so Thursday night I'll give a report.

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[Snicklefritz]

I will be brewing this again this weekend. Just got my yeast starter going.

 

[Ilan34]

I will be brewing this again this weekend. Just got my yeast starter going.

Good luck! I'm none too happy with myself regarding this batch right now. See this thread: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/priming-sugar-mishap-467561/

Oy.

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[y2jrock60]

I kegged my Hop Ranch closne last night and oh boy, it smelled delicious! I'll post a pic and tasting notes in a week or two when its done carbonating. I sampled it after I finished kegging and it tasted and smelled pretty damn close to what I remember the actual Hop Ranch.